Cars I don't want to want - Page 9

John V · 11-01-2018, 07:40 AM

I thought the lack of an LSD in my Boxster would be annoying, but to be honest I haven't really noticed it. Only in the rain, and I don't typically drive the car when it's raining. It seems like an easy addition if you already have the transaxle out to do a clutch, and supposedly the clutches on these cars are only good for about 60k (I'm closing in on 70k and the clutch feels great, so who knows). The Sport Chrono engine programming can be added to any Boxster or Cayman without the stupid clock on the dash. Supposedly that provides some real benefits to the stability control and brake differential, but I haven't experienced it personally. For the street I suspect I won't care. Heated seats are kind of a "meh" for us. They're helpful about 2% of the time I drive the car, and that's in a convertible. In a coupe I suspect I really wouldn't care at all.

I do like having full leather, and I'd definitely want to try the sport seats if I got another 987 or tried a 981. The 987 base seats are comfortable for about two hours for me, but after that I need a break. They do something to my legs that causes a lot of nerve pain on long drives.

equ · 11-01-2018, 10:22 AM

There, I spec'ced it for you! Go for it, it's not like Porsche is continuing to make 6-cyl mid-engined cars, they are not other than needless 3.8 specialty models to milk cash.

JST · 11-01-2018, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by equ

There, I spec'ced it for you! Go for it, it's not like Porsche is continuing to make 6-cyl mid-engined cars, they are not other than needless 3.8 specialty models to milk cash.

Counterpoint: The Gt3 Touring is maybe something I should mortgage my entire life for?

equ · 11-01-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JST

Counterpoint: The Gt3 Touring is maybe something I should mortgage my entire life for?

I was referring to the 6-cyl mid-engined "exceptions" such as GT4's and Spyders... Other than those, no more Flat-6 for mid-engine fans.

All 911's milk cash, the more specialty the model the better for porsche...

zach · 11-01-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JST

Counterpoint: The Gt3 Touring is maybe something I should mortgage my entire life for?

Yeah it's really appealing. I do wish it had the option for back seats.

Josh (PA) · 11-01-2018, 10:41 AM

I hate these threads. I spent the last 20 minutes searching boxsters... I kind of like this one:

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

But then I went back to this and again lost all emotional connection to the P-car

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

wdc330i · 11-01-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh (PA)

I hate these threads. I spent the last 20 minutes searching boxsters... I kind of like this one:

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

But then I went back to this and again lost all emotional connection to the P-car

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

Right. I was just going to mention you don't like Porsches.

equ · 11-01-2018, 11:28 AM

It's true he really dislikes porsches likes front-engined stuff.. Nothing wrong with that. The aston would HAVE to be a coupe for me. Just like the 911, the whole car is ruined when the roof is chopped off. I guess I make my rationalizations to accept the boxster. I'd agree that the cayman does look better than a boxster with the roof up... But, the boxster came first and it is not the afterthought the 911 cab and aston cab are.

That particular boxster has an *interesting* color combo. I could probably swing that, I like the interior. Good comfy seats, too... I like the 14-ways better than the 18-ways that I have. However, base suspension is lacking IMHO.

Josh (PA) · 11-01-2018, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by equ

It's true he really dislikes porsches likes front-engined stuff.. Nothing wrong with that. The aston would HAVE to be a coupe for me. Just like the 911, the whole car is ruined when the roof is chopped off. I guess I make my rationalizations to accept the boxster. I'd agree that the cayman does look better than a boxster with the roof up... But, the boxster came first and it is not the afterthought the 911 cab and aston cab are.

That particular boxster has an *interesting* color combo. I could probably swing that, I like the interior. Good comfy seats, too... I like the 14-ways better than the 18-ways that I have. However, base suspension is lacking IMHO.

Where i really struggle is the boxster is such 'the right' car for my next vehicle.

I want a fun, manual soft top convertible with enough power to be quick(er than a Miata) enough space to use for weekend get aways to the lake and reliable / robust / modest depreciation curve enough, that I don't have to fret about putting 250+ miles a week on it. I will be using it as a daily driver to work at least 3 days a week. I want something newish for under $60k max. The boxster is really the only car that checks those boxes. There is a sliver thin chance the next M4 'vert might do it too, but i highly doubt they bring it over with a manual.

I have only spent real seat time in a base 987.2. Maybe the newer ones with an S or GTS engine set up will fix what that one lacked.

I liked the brown exterior on that boxster... I'd have to see the interior in person.

John V · 11-01-2018, 01:44 PM

You're always welcome to come drive mine

Though they are great cars, obviously they're not everyone's cup of tea.

11-01-2018, 10:41 AM	#86
Josh (PA) Hello. Join Date: Mar 2004 Carmudgeonly Ride: '09 X3, '11 328xiT, '11 135i C, '17 c2, '19 X5 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 5,531	I hate these threads. I spent the last 20 minutes searching boxsters... I kind of like this one: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing But then I went back to this and again lost all emotional connection to the P-car https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing __________________ Josh (PA) - '19 X5 '17 991.2 C2 Cab '11 135i Convertible '11 328xiT '09 X3

11-01-2018, 07:40 AM	#81
John V No more BMWs Join Date: Apr 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: Ram, MS3, CX-5, RX-8 Location: Glenwood, MD Posts: 14,753	I thought the lack of an LSD in my Boxster would be annoying, but to be honest I haven't really noticed it. Only in the rain, and I don't typically drive the car when it's raining. It seems like an easy addition if you already have the transaxle out to do a clutch, and supposedly the clutches on these cars are only good for about 60k (I'm closing in on 70k and the clutch feels great, so who knows). The Sport Chrono engine programming can be added to any Boxster or Cayman without the stupid clock on the dash. Supposedly that provides some real benefits to the stability control and brake differential, but I haven't experienced it personally. For the street I suspect I won't care. Heated seats are kind of a "meh" for us. They're helpful about 2% of the time I drive the car, and that's in a convertible. In a coupe I suspect I really wouldn't care at all. I do like having full leather, and I'd definitely want to try the sport seats if I got another 987 or tried a 981. The 987 base seats are comfortable for about two hours for me, but after that I need a break. They do something to my legs that causes a lot of nerve pain on long drives.

11-01-2018, 10:22 AM	#82
equ Alphanumeric Join Date: Aug 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: 981S, 340i Posts: 9,584	There, I spec'ced it for you! Go for it, it's not like Porsche is continuing to make 6-cyl mid-engined cars, they are not other than needless 3.8 specialty models to milk cash.

11-01-2018, 11:28 AM	#88
equ Alphanumeric Join Date: Aug 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: 981S, 340i Posts: 9,584	It's true he really dislikes porsches likes front-engined stuff.. Nothing wrong with that. The aston would HAVE to be a coupe for me. Just like the 911, the whole car is ruined when the roof is chopped off. I guess I make my rationalizations to accept the boxster. I'd agree that the cayman does look better than a boxster with the roof up... But, the boxster came first and it is not the afterthought the 911 cab and aston cab are. That particular boxster has an interesting color combo. I could probably swing that, I like the interior. Good comfy seats, too... I like the 14-ways better than the 18-ways that I have. However, base suspension is lacking IMHO.

11-01-2018, 01:44 PM	#90
John V No more BMWs Join Date: Apr 2005 Carmudgeonly Ride: Ram, MS3, CX-5, RX-8 Location: Glenwood, MD Posts: 14,753	You're always welcome to come drive mine Though they are great cars, obviously they're not everyone's cup of tea.