Tesla Model S waffling

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[ZBB]

Originally Posted by lemming

but here is a datapoint for end-of-lease residual:

http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s...tid=nl80059719

looks good.

Just came across an eBay listing for a Model S that was likely produced the same day mine was (the VIN is <20 lower than mine...). http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tesla-Other-...US_Cars_Trucks

Its also configured similar to mine -- only differences compared to mine are (note -prices were from when I ordered in March '13):

• It has the upgraded stereo $900
• It has the multi-coat Pearl White paint $1500
• It doesn't have the pano roof $1500
• It doesn't have the rear parcel shelf $250
• The following differences had no price difference from mine: black leather (I have tan), piano black trim (I have the obeche gloss wood)
• Its not clear from the description if Supercharging is enabled -- but lets assume it is

So the sticker was $650 more than mine.

Will be interesting to see where this auction ends. Its currently at $62.2k with 5 days left and 20 bids. Its under the reserve, and the Buy It Now is $75.5k

Oh... that Buy It Now price is ~$3k higher than the after-tax credit cost of that car new, and pretty close to what buying a new Model S would cost equipped the same ($75.8k after the Federal tax credit).

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Quick update... That eBay auction ended last night.

Final bid was $70,100, but it didn't hit reserve. The seller dropped the Buy it Now by $2500 to $73k before it ended too...

Still good to know -- gives an indication of what I could get for my car if I needed to sell it. $70k would be only 3.5% depreciation from the after-credit price I paid, and ~10% after factoring in sales tax cost. Not bad for a year into a car...

I still expect it to depreciate in line with other high-end sedans, but if I had to sell it today, I'd be in great shape...

[equ]

Originally Posted by ZBB

Quick update... That eBay auction ended last night.

Final bid was $70,100, but it didn't hit reserve. The seller dropped the Buy it Now by $2500 to $73k before it ended too...

Still good to know -- gives an indication of what I could get for my car if I needed to sell it. $70k would be only 3.5% depreciation from the after-credit price I paid, and ~10% after factoring in sales tax cost. Not bad for a year into a car...

I still expect it to depreciate in line with other high-end sedans, but if I had to sell it today, I'd be in great shape...

That IS great, but it is not necessarily representative of predicted depreciation going forward. You are an early adopter of a car that got hotter and hotter, it's like having bought the right stock at the right time.

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Originally Posted by equ

That IS great, but it is not necessarily representative of predicted depreciation going forward. You are an early adopter of a car that got hotter and hotter, it's like having bought the right stock at the right time.

I agree. Its just a point in time reference (and a single sample point too...).

I thought it was especially interesting since the car was produced within a day of mine and configured fairly similar -- its about as apples-to-apples as I'll ever see!

[lemming]

what does the S range look like when you're flat out on the highway?

I was driving back from Manhattan (to Boston) last night via Danbury through to Hartford.

Traffic along 684 is insanely fast. Traffic was at least 80mph. At least.

I was curious in this situation how much that inhibits your range. I was in an EV recently and the range went from 87mi to 52mi in the blink of an eye once we hit the highway and we were only going 70-72mph. (loaded with four people and full A/C on a hot day, though).

[JST]

Here's the first dyno run I've seen:

http://www.TeslaMotorsClub.com/showthread.php?t=33413

The "curves" are interesting, but I think something is screwy with the torque figures. I just don't know enough about gearing and dynos to figure it out.

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Originally Posted by lemming

what does the S range look like when you're flat out on the highway?

I was driving back from Manhattan (to Boston) last night via Danbury through to Hartford.

Traffic along 684 is insanely fast. Traffic was at least 80mph. At least.

I was curious in this situation how much that inhibits your range. I was in an EV recently and the range went from 87mi to 52mi in the blink of an eye once we hit the highway and we were only going 70-72mph. (loaded with four people and full A/C on a hot day, though).

I've never seen that big of a drop of range that fast. You do get fewer miles at higher speeds. I tend to drive no more than 5-10 over the limit (hasn't changed with the Tesla). When going home from work, the first mile or so is city street before I get on the freeway, where I typically accelerate to 70. With having to cool the car down from ~101-105 (even with covered parking...), and then accelerating up, I see range drop by about 10 miles over the first 5. But once the cabin is cool, range drops closer to the rating, although it is impacted by elevation changes (I climb ~1400 feet on the way home).

[JST]

This news about a battery upgrade for the Roadster is pretty cool, because it shows a commitment to upgrading.

I like what it suggests about what should be available for the Model S in a few years.

http://jalopnik.com/tesla-reported-c...iii-1605647688

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Originally Posted by JST

This news about a battery upgrade for the Roadster is pretty cool, because it shows a commitment to upgrading.

I like what it suggests about what should be available for the Model S in a few years.

http://jalopnik.com/tesla-reported-c...iii-1605647688

Yeah... But likely expensive!