10-11-2020, 05:15 PM | #61 |
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The only snag is, apparently we won't see the new 2021 GTIs until late next year...
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10-11-2020, 05:24 PM | #62 | |
Crotchety
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The NVH issues were addressed in the 2020 Civics (at least in the refresh of the hatchbacks). Honda added more sound deadening and vibration control. But that being said, this 2020 Civic is still louder inside than both my 2012 GTI and 2015 GTI. It was in no way a deal breaker for me since it is what it is. A car that is $10k less than a new GTI with 85% of the GTI performance. And as for the looks of the Civic Hatchback I understand. I have yet to meet anyone who is neutral on the styling of it. People either think it's way too obnoxious or that it looks great. I was wary of it at first (more because I know my wife would think it looked bad) but after a week or so it really grew on me and I find it to be refreshing in a unique way. If you're looking at a Golf it is really worth driving a Civic Hatch Sport or Sport Touring both with the manual.
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10-11-2020, 06:49 PM | #63 | |
Solving problems
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I think I’d be plenty happy with a 2018+ (MK 7.5) GTI, but resale is silly and a new one may make more sense. |
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10-11-2020, 11:04 PM | #64 |
Carmudgeon
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Still haven't warmed up to the looks of the mk8 personally. The mk7 GTI is pretty much the perfect hatchback imo. I think it's one of those cars that pretty much anyone would be happy in even if they dont admit it.
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10-12-2020, 10:09 AM | #65 |
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10-12-2020, 11:14 AM | #66 |
No more BMWs
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I'm not a fan of the Mk8's looks, but by all indications the driving dynamics should be a lot better than the Mk7. If I could magically turn the Mazdaspeed and the CX-5 into a Mk8 and a pile of cash I'd pull the trigger on that immediately
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10-12-2020, 02:30 PM | #67 |
Solving problems
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10-13-2020, 02:39 PM | #68 |
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Especially with VAG reliability. They seem to basically be cars you dump after 60,000 miles.
Having said that, most everyone I know with the current gen Civic has said the reliability has been ... not Honda-like. |
10-13-2020, 02:42 PM | #69 |
dogged
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Maybe that will change with the shift to Germany for the GTIs and Rs?
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10-13-2020, 03:25 PM | #70 |
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I doubt it, it doesn't seem to be an issue with assembly quality but rather component quality.
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