Fuck Tesla

[equ]

Not surprising:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/11/o...francisco.html

[Alan]

Originally Posted by equ

Not surprising:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/11/o...francisco.html

Would like to read it but don’t have a subscription

[jpgurl]

It reads: self-driving car safety, testing, and oversight is bad. But also, support journalism.

[equ]

Originally Posted by Alan

Would like to read it but don’t have a subscription

Some quotes:

In San Francisco this month, a woman suffered traumatic injuries from being struck by a driver and thrown into the path of one of hundreds of self-driving cars roaming the city’s streets. San Francisco’s fire chief, Jeanine Nicholson, recently testified that as of August, autonomous vehicles interfered with firefighting duties 55 times this year. Tesla’s autopilot software, a driver-assistance system, has been involved in 736 crashes and 17 fatalities nationwide since 2019.

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To earn the right to drive a car, most of us at some point have to pass a vision test, a written test and a driving test.

The A.I. undergoes no such government scrutiny before commanding the wheel. In California, companies can get a permit to operate driverless cars by declaring that their vehicles have been tested and the “manufacturer has reasonably determined that is safe to operate the vehicle.”
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After all, A.I. often makes surprising mistakes. This year, one of GM’s Cruise cars slammed into an articulated bus after incorrectly predicting its movement. GM updated the software after the incident. Last year, an autonomous car slammed on its brakes while making a left turn because it seemed to have thought that an oncoming car was going to make a right turn into its path. Instead, the oncoming vehicle slammed into the stopped driverless vehicle. Passengers in both cars were injured.

“The computer vision systems in these cars are extremely brittle. They will fail in ways that we simply don’t understand,” says Dr. Cummings, who has written that A.I. should be subject to licensing requirements equivalent to the vision and performance tests that pilots and drivers undergo.

[Alan]

Thanks for posting !!

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by jpgurl

It reads: self-driving car safety, testing, and oversight is bad. But also, support journalism.

Good take.

[Terri Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Alan

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[FC]

Um, $20k for a new battery? F that.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tesla-own...101437691.html

[JST]

Well…I take those water ingress stories with a huge grain of salt. There was a guy on the X5 forums who was super pissed about water ingress into his transfer case. He claimed to have just driven through 4 or 5 inches of water at some relatively high rate of speed and argued that BMWs ads showed similar and worse conditions.

Was it just 4 or 5 inches? How fast was he really going? Idk for sure but in such cases the operator has every incentive to minimize their behavior.

What happened to this Tesla? Was it really just sitting outside in the rain, or did they drive through some standing water?

And I imagine if you drove something like a 330 through deep enough water you could easily get a similar bill.

[robg]

Dunno but Porsche recently recalled taycans due to insufficient sealant allowing water into the battery

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a4...on-gt-recall/#


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