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Old 09-22-2020, 10:58 AM   #11
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It's lack of success will further the narrative that no one wants sedans and no one wants manuals when in reality it is simply no one wants something this ugly.
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Old 09-22-2020, 11:06 AM   #12
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It's lack of success will further the narrative that no one wants sedans and no one wants manuals when in reality it is simply no one wants something this ugly.
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Old 09-22-2020, 11:15 AM   #13
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It's ugly, but maybe it will grow on me like the Giulia did (though the proportions of the Giulia, nose aside, are wayyyy better).

Anyway, I'll be interested to see how it drives. Might be a viable option to replace the F80 at some point. I can always do that tuner thing where I drive with the intercooler exposed.

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Old 09-22-2020, 12:49 PM   #14
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Ugh. That makes me sad.

Is it me, or is it not really all that different from the the F8X except for the ugly part?

It's a smidge more modern and maybe more muscular, but that's all dwarfed by the new ugly.
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Old 09-22-2020, 12:53 PM   #15
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Anyway, I'll be interested to see how it drives. Might be a viable option to replace the F80 at some point. I can always do that tuner thing where I drive with the intercooler exposed.
If I ever replace the F80 with another sedan, it is almost certainly going to be an EV.
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Old 09-22-2020, 01:05 PM   #16
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Old 09-23-2020, 07:20 AM   #17
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BMW just continues to be a bigger and bigger joke.
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Old 09-23-2020, 11:37 AM   #18
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Yeah besides the looks, almost 4k pounds for base 6MT Big loss of torque going with the 6MT
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Yeah besides the looks, almost 4k pounds for base 6MT Big loss of torque going with the 6MT
Wow! That is a LOT heavier than the F80 (~3650 IIRC). I though there was this huge commitment to not increase weight.

If that's all due to the AWD, that's a big hit.
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Wow! That is a LOT heavier than the F80 (~3650 IIRC). I though there was this huge commitment to not increase weight.

If that's all due to the AWD, that's a big hit.
I said almost but it is something 3800-ish for 6MT base rwd
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