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Old 09-19-2019, 10:30 AM   #21
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I feel like no one is acknowledging how good a deal the Tesla Model 3 Performance is.

I just built an equivalent 340i and it is $64,220.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:22 AM   #22
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I really shouldn't have clicked on through to see what Model 3 Performance cars are going for these days.

Jesus, 55,950 is a fucking steal for that car. Like...that's insanely well priced. A similar M4 is 74,900.

Goddamn.
What were they selling them for before?

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The thing that amazes me is you could get $18k when you paid $19k ... though I was pretty amazed you only paid $19k for such a beautiful new car. I would think it was at a minimum a $30k plus car not that I know anything about
camaro’s but I always thought they were much more money then you originally paid.
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+1. That's probably one of the best new car deals i've ever heard of.
I don't know... MSRP was $28,100. Invoice (less holdback)$25,9xx. There was $2k from the dealer end (subtract $26k from $28k and what do you get?) and over $7k from Chevy incentives.

I think there was probably another $1-$1.5k to be had if I was willing to grind it out, especially when factoring the FoST as a trade. They gave me a little less than Carmax offered, but close enough that the sales tax savings more than ate the difference. But, I was happy enough with the price, the trade offer and the combination let me get it done and go home in the car I wanted.

So, at $19k, the price was good, and I left super happy, but I think the deal was pretty pedestrian.

For its current trade value...I would guess most identically equipped 2017 2.0T Camaros sold for between $24k and $25k after incentives were applied. At three model years old and 36,000 miles, if I'd paid $24,500, an $18k offer today would be...meh?
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:26 AM   #23
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What were they selling them for before?
It's a shapeless egg with a mouthless Keanu Reeves in "The Matrix" face. It better be good at something.

It's also about twice as much as what I want to spend.

If a fully functional backseat and/or 4 doors are not a requirement, Is a $56k Model 3 Performance a better "deal" than a 1SS 1LE Camaro at $30k?
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:32 AM   #24
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I feel like no one is acknowledging how good a deal the Tesla Model 3 Performance is.
It is definitely a lot of car for the money, but I don't know if it's a great deal when it still costs THAT much.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:35 AM   #25
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Chevy really moved quickly to fix the front end design from 2019 to 2020! Maybe you could do the 2019 and wrap/paint the mustache to improve its looks for the difference in price?

I think you need a Krypton Green 1LE V8, if they still make that color.
Wrapping the nose is a probability if the car isn't white, black or dark gray.

Krypton green ended in 2018.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:39 AM   #26
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It is definitely a lot of car for the money, but I don't know if it's a great deal when it still costs THAT much.
For reference, as of August, the average transaction for new cars in the US was $37,400 (according to KBB.
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Old 09-19-2019, 12:09 PM   #27
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It's a shapeless egg with a mouthless Keanu Reeves in "The Matrix" face. It better be good at something.

It's also about twice as much as what I want to spend.

If a fully functional backseat and/or 4 doors are not a requirement, Is a $56k Model 3 Performance a better "deal" than a 1SS 1LE Camaro at $30k?
Let's just say I paid a lot more for mine. Enough more than a lesser person might be enraged.

Is it a better deal than a 1LE Camaro? Idk. That's your call. Probably not in your case. I think you need to buy a V8 muscle car and I would do that before I did anything else.

I'll tell you that in day to day driving the Tesla is a lot more pleasant than a 400+ hp ICE car, but that doesn't change the fact that you need a V8 Camaro.
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Let's just say I paid a lot more for mine. Enough more than a lesser person might be enraged.

Is it a better deal than a 1LE Camaro? Idk. That's your call. Probably not in your case. I think you need to buy a V8 muscle car and I would do that before I did anything else.

I'll tell you that in day to day driving the Tesla is a lot more pleasant than a 400+ hp ICE car, but that doesn't change the fact that you need a V8 Camaro.
Clyde needs a bitchin’ Camaro.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:30 PM   #29
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Let's just say I paid a lot more for mine. Enough more than a lesser person might be enraged.
I was kind of sensing that might be the case. Sorry.

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Is it a better deal than a 1LE Camaro? Idk. That's your call. Probably not in your case. I think you need to buy a V8 muscle car and I would do that before I did anything else.

I'll tell you that in day to day driving the Tesla is a lot more pleasant than a 400+ hp ICE car, but that doesn't change the fact that you need a V8 Camaro.
I don't know how it will play out, but from a guy that woke up one morning convinced he was buying a C5 Corvette to placing an order for at 325xiT by COB that day, I can definitely says that "shit happens."
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:12 PM   #30
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I was kind of sensing that might be the case. Sorry.
Eh, it is what it is. Early adopter, etc. Tesla adjusts their pricing so much that if you stressed about it you'd never get anything done.

The Model S Performance was a good car when it was closer to M3 money. It's a simply amazing car for 55 grand.
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