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02-19-2019, 01:34 PM | #33 |
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The x3 with the s58 does seem like a really good package. I've been thinking about the x3M a lot lately as a replacement for the x5, but reality is the m4.0i is probably a better daily driver at this point. I'm sure the extra power and M bits are nice, but I'd trade a little of the excessive power for less ride harshness I think. I'll definitely check it out when the time comes.
kind of off topic, but who the heck can afford a Porsche Panamera. I priced out a base P4 sport turismo yesterday and was at $127k before I even got excited about the cool features or the bigger engines. That is well into an e63 wagon price range.
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02-19-2019, 01:43 PM | #34 | |
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02-19-2019, 01:44 PM | #35 |
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02-19-2019, 01:48 PM | #36 | |
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I'm now remembering a test drive of bmw e46 323 (long ago), that had leatherette. The sales guy was very proud of it for some reason and was like "i bet you can't tell its not leather". I was like "actually, I can and I don't like it". lol |
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02-19-2019, 02:55 PM | #39 |
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Doesn't Tesla offer ventilated seats? I had them on the JGC and the Macan. Really nice to have on a luxo car.
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Not so much the ride quality. Comparing a 2010 b8 a4 6-speed manual sports suspension 18" wheels vs. 2014 b8.5 s4 6-speed manual... Two items stand out.
* Engine revs and response tuning. The s4 revs higher on the highway. Nuts. As a result, it is highly responsive to right foot when doing long cruises at 80mph. The 2.0T 6th gear is geared longer. * Steering. Neither win the steering prize. On back roads, the s4 was more fun due to response of the chassis and the car. Both of them sucked on the highway due to overly weighty steering. I swear sometimes I needed two hands on the wheel to turn in sweepers. Ugh. The a4 wasn't great but had slightly more feedback due to hydraulic, but the speed sensitive weighting was screwed up. The s4 was electric and felt great on test on back roads and aggressive turns, but again was not a steady, calm ship for doing a 350mile stretch after days of skiing. * MPG's. They had about the same size tank, which means the s4 had a much less useful range. I achieved a real 30 to 33mpg in the a4 on long stretches, compared to 23 to 25 on the s4. Same speeds. |
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