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Originally Posted by rumatt
Your attempt to paint anyone who uses autopilot as a reckless, careless individual is failing.
[snip an amazing amount of false equivalency trying to prove multiple wrongs make a right]
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Originally Posted by clyde
If I am missing something persuasive that these systems are as safe as humans driving, please show me. I would really like to stop and move on.
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Originally Posted by rumatt
I don't believe that using autopilot is anywhere near the top of the list of dangerous things I've done while driving.
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Why don't you believe that? Why do you believe that it's safe enough to use? I get that it's fun. I don't dispute that. Again, I'm not even suggesting that it's unsafe.
I am just completely unaware of any reasonable reasons to believe that it is safe (or at least using it is roughly as safe as a regular person driving manually) and asking all of you what makes you believe that it's safe to use.
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Originally Posted by rumatt
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Something convinced you that it's reasonable to turn over your driving responsibilities to your car
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It seemed fun. 
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Do you see the disconnect between my question and your answer?
Musk and Tesla have been deceptive and misleading about capabilities and safety in hawking Autpilot and then hidden behind the word "beta" when caught. This also doesn't mean that it's not safe, but it doesn't give any reason to believe that it is. Given the man and the company's repeated difficulties in being truthful about...damn near everything, why on earth would you risk your lives and the lives of those around you based on their claims without any kind of independent verification? Because it's fun?
sigh
https://www.thedrive.com/tech/26455/...study-unmasked
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...dog-groups-say
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/tesl...ry?id=61312214
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...outing-model-3
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohn.../#63417b5a675a
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors...cing_crap_has/
https://bgr.com/2018/07/11/tesla-mod...safe-to-drive/
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskS...into_stanford/