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clyde 07-22-2020 10:53 PM

help me pick
 
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I don't what color to get or how much I might be willing to drop a few place down my preference list in order to get something that's available right now.

http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attach...1&d=1595472723

These are all the colors available on the 2020 Camaro. The only two that I absolutely do not want are Garnet and Red Hot.

Initially, way back whenever, I was pretty sure I wanted Shock. I've come to realize that I don't know if I can really pull that off. So, I think, if it was available and the price was right, I could buy it, but if there are bunch of them sitting there and I were to pick one, it wouldn't be that.

I currently think that Crush is my first choice. But, it's a lot of color for me. But, much of my life (automotive and everything else) has typically been an ongoing stream of basic dark and muted colors, often cheating towards earthy if off the black to white spectrum. Maroon instead of red. Navy instead of royal. Etc. The Focus ST in it's electricish blue was the most colorful car I ever owned where I had a choice in color (and would have bought it in "tangerine" yellow if I could have or been willing to wait). Part of me wants to have something that's big and colorful in my life, so why not the midlife crisis muscle car? Whatever I get will spend a lot of its time with a lot of stickers and decals all over it. And I think it will be more interesting looking in photos from events and regular scenics. But, I don't know. It's a lot of color. I'm also mildly concerned about how paint chips will appear.

Then, there's Black, Shadow Gray, Satin Steel tier, which is what I naturally gravitate towards. My issue with black is that it looks dirty quickly and I worry about paint chips being very visible. Other than that, I dig it and wouldn't mind. The gray and silver don't need to be "just washed" to have a "just washed" look. They also hide chips and scratches really well. I don't think the image do the gray and silver justice. They both have color in them cheating towards blue. The darker one is the closest match to the turbo. I'd kind of like to have something totally different, but kinda like it.

I'm not a huge fan of the Rally Green, but people really, really seem to love it. I don't dislike it at all, but it just doesn't do anything for me. The Q45 I had in the 90s was a very similar green. It's so far into my comfort zone that I'm just against it...unless the price was really, really right.

I've never willingly owned a white car, but there's something I really dig about the black and white look of the 1LE Camaros in the way that there's something I really dig about black and white cop cars. I drove a used white one in February. If not for some issues with the car itself, I probably would have bought it and been happy with the color choice. It's also probably best at hiding chips and scratches.

The blue is not my favorite blue of all blues I've ever seen on cars. But, I've had a lot of blue cars. And this blue doesn't beckon to me. OTOH, it's best compromise split of color and dark and muted. I'm sure I'd be happy with it.

JST 07-22-2020 11:03 PM

It's an outrageous car. You should get it in a color. Colorful cars are good--in fact, you should peruse the twitter hashtag #getitinthegoodcolor for further instruction in this regard.

The last silver car I owned was that 1998 M3, and I regretted that it wasn't Estoril Blue every day. I've had a collection of black cars, which are...fine, but they are also kind of bland and as you note they show dirt way too fast.

These days, I have a red/orange car, an electric blue car, and a bright red car. In a sea of greige Lexus RXs, I don't regret any of those choices for a single second.

So, get the Camaro in the good color. Here, I'd say that's either Shock or Crush. I'd probably go with Crush, because highlighter yellow/green is a lot even for me, but on the other hand...what the fuck, why not?

lemming 07-22-2020 11:17 PM

Shadow Gray looks bad ass.

lemming 07-22-2020 11:18 PM

@clyde: I really like this power train. Shifter is a little gruff and the redline is low, but man, it’s fun.

Theo 07-22-2020 11:47 PM

Riverside Blue

FC 07-22-2020 11:50 PM

I say Crush. Shock might be a bit much.

White bring out all the dark accents without a "look at me" contrasting color.

I'm meh on the grays and black for a combination of dirty and subtle. Same for me the green.

Blue could be good, but hard to tell from that rendering.

Nick M3 07-23-2020 06:43 AM

Crush, Red Hot, Shock. Those are the only colors. I don’t care that you don’t want Red Hot. You’re required to keep it on your list.

ff 07-23-2020 06:58 AM

None of those colors yell out to me. I'm normally a big fan of the dark grays because the color is classy + sporty, but doesn't attract attention from cops like red or yellow do. But that Shadow Gray looks like it has a blue tint to it, which appears dull to me. Almost military.

I'd usually also like that Riverside Blue, but it looks a bit off for a reason I can't pinpoint. Maybe it's the contrasting hood?

So that would then make Crush my first choice. If you have the self-control to drive a bright, fast car without attracting a lot of unwanted attention, I think that's the one I'd choose.

Josh (PA) 07-23-2020 07:00 AM

My personal preference for you is:
1. crush
2. riverside
3. Shadow
4. Garnet
5. Satin
6. Shock
7. Rally
8. Summit

If I was owning it would be
1. Shadow
2. Riverside
3. Black
4. Garnet
5. Rally

I really didn't like Rally at first, but the more I stare at it the more it is growing on me.

wdc330i 07-23-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick M3 (Post 561852)
Crush, Red Hot, Shock. Those are the only colors. I don’t care that you don’t want Red Hot. You’re required to keep it on your list.

Exactly!

BahnBaum 07-23-2020 08:38 AM

Crush it.

Alex

wdc330i 07-23-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BahnBaum (Post 561857)
Crush it.

Alex

My first choice as well.

equ 07-23-2020 08:46 AM

First decide if you will have a "color" or not.

If you are doing a color, I say "Shock". I don't like Crush, it's too General Lee for me. I also don't like Red Hot, had too much trouble with red cars in the past.

I really like that green, but not on that car. Same with the safe Navy, not a great fit.

Else if you are not doing a color, Shadow Gray or maybe White. The black & silver are terrible on this.

FC 07-23-2020 08:56 AM

I'd say there's consensus on a loud color.

JST 07-23-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FC (Post 561860)
I'd say there's consensus on a loud color.

*good color.

Nick M3 07-23-2020 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JST (Post 561861)
*good color.

On this car, loud color is more important than good color.

JST 07-23-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick M3 (Post 561862)
On this car, loud color is more important than good color.

My point is that on this car, loud color IS good color.

FC 07-23-2020 10:37 AM

https://cdn-ds.com/stock/2019-Chevro...3b64ac3f78.jpg

:cool:

JST 07-23-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FC (Post 561866)

Yeah, that's the one.

Alan 07-23-2020 12:13 PM

I think that white with the black accents is beautiful but then again I typically only purchase white or black cars.

The Crush is pretty cool ... really you can't go wrong with most of these colors.

robg 07-23-2020 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JST (Post 561867)
Yeah, that's the one.

Not really into orange or Camaros, but seeing that combination makes me want one!

Theo 07-23-2020 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC (Post 561866)

Ok you can see the color way better in that pic. That is nice. Those color pallet pics you posted make them all look flat.

FC 07-23-2020 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo (Post 561871)
Ok you can see the color way better in that pic. That is nice. Those color pallet pics you posted make them all look flat.

Also, while not quite as "red" as the orange JST and I have on our M3's, it does seem to have a bit more red than, for example, this orange:

https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/u...-edition-1.jpg

clyde 07-23-2020 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo (Post 561871)
Ok you can see the color way better in that pic. That is nice. Those color pallet pics you posted make them all look flat.

Thanks for all the comments, thoughts, suggestions, etc. Car colors are always a very personal thing. This car is going to check a lot of boxes for me, so I care a bit more about color than I normally do.

I agree that the image in the OP is less than ideal, but for some reason, Chevy doesn't seem to have real world photos (or true photorealistic renderings) presenting the cars in a consistent manner. I am sure that color chips exits, but they're not easy to find.

I think they're basically close enough as a comparison and can't really do much better short of seeing them all in person at the same time and under various lighting conditions.

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do, yet.

FC 07-23-2020 01:27 PM

I think it's a cool car and basically any color will work. Good luck!

Theo 07-23-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FC (Post 561872)
Also, while not quite as "red" as the orange JST and I have on our M3's, it does seem to have a bit more red than, for example, this orange:

https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/u...-edition-1.jpg

Lime rock addition. I was actually passed by one of those not to long ago. I cant believe the premium for a color and exhaust.

FC 07-23-2020 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo (Post 561875)
Lime rock addition. I was actually passed by one of those not to long ago. I cant believe the premium for a color and exhaust.

I didn't know that was offered as some special edition. Don't want to derail this thread anymore, but I have seen it chosen through Individual on other models including the F80.

dan 07-23-2020 01:59 PM


jpgurl 07-23-2020 02:00 PM

Crush.

#orangecarsrule

dan 07-23-2020 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC (Post 561872)
Also, while not quite as "red" as the orange JST and I have on our M3's, it does seem to have a bit more red than, for example, this orange:

https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/u...-edition-1.jpg

I saw an E46 M3 with an aftermarket vented hood painted in that color the last time I was at the dealership

GimpyMcFarlan 07-23-2020 02:04 PM

Crush FTW

JST 07-23-2020 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo (Post 561875)
Lime rock addition. I was actually passed by one of those not to long ago. I cant believe the premium for a color and exhaust.

Lime Rock Edition in Australia, no less. Maybe should have been the Bathurst Edition down there? That's a little school-bussy for my taste, but if I had to choose between that and a silver M3, I'd pick orange every time.

But I really like Crush, it's a neat color.

wdc330i 07-23-2020 02:30 PM

I was actually admiring this orange Mini yesterday (online). Alas not one of the manuals that are now coming.

https://www.atlantamini.com/VehicleD...-GA/4604979903

kognito 07-23-2020 08:54 PM

IMHO the blue looks better in person than the picture

clyde 07-23-2020 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kognito (Post 561904)
IMHO the blue looks better in person than the picture

2016s had "Velvet Blue Metallic"
2017s and 2018's had "Hyper Blue Metallic"

Both of those were brighter and more appealing (IMO) than the 2019/20 Riverside Blue Metallic.

Josh (PA) 07-24-2020 07:01 AM

will you be getting all the aero bits that are on the car FC posted? I think I'd enjoy washing those winglets, kind of like I always enjoyed cleaning the mirrors on my e36 m3

JST 07-24-2020 07:42 AM

Speaking of colors

https://jalopnik.com/yes-cars-used-t...ource=facebook

clyde 07-24-2020 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh (PA) (Post 561907)
will you be getting all the aero bits that are on the car FC posted? I think I'd enjoy washing those winglets, kind of like I always enjoyed cleaning the mirrors on my e36 m3

The car FC posted is a ZL1 1LE and those bits are specific to that model with that package. The car I buy will have a much smaller splitter, a short blade spoiler instead of a big wing, and no canards (the winglet things on the front corners), or side skirts.

Thoughts of a used 2017 or 18 ZL1 have been rolling in my head since the beginning of the virus stuff. The pricing was close enough that if used values had generally dropped the way it was looking at first, it would have been doable. I don't think I would have gotten the 1LE package on it. It's so track focused that it suffers a lot as a street car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JST (Post 561909)

All that acid I dropped in the 1960s had consequences...

kognito 07-24-2020 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 561906)
2016s had "Velvet Blue Metallic"
2017s and 2018's had "Hyper Blue Metallic"

Both of those were brighter and more appealing (IMO) than the 2019/20 Riverside Blue Metallic.

I get that. I was looking at a 2020 Riverside when getting a brake recall done on my GMC.

I only meant it looks better in person than the pictures (like 75% of all cars)

The battleship/baby puke golden grey of my GMC looks as bad in person as the pictures :ack:

lemming 07-24-2020 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 561910)
The car FC posted is a ZL1 1LE and those bits are specific to that model with that package. The car I buy will have a much smaller splitter, a short blade spoiler instead of a big wing, and no canards (the winglet things on the front corners), or side skirts.

Thoughts of a used 2017 or 18 ZL1 have been rolling in my head since the beginning of the virus stuff. The pricing was close enough that if used values had generally dropped the way it was looking at first, it would have been doable. I don't think I would have gotten the 1LE package on it. It's so track focused that it suffers a lot as a street car.



All that acid I dropped in the 1960s had consequences...

I need you to be explicit: getting a ZL1 is stupid idea for a commuter car. Please just say yes.


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