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Nick M3 08-21-2006 02:05 PM

Pic of the race car at Summit Point
 
There's quite a lot of body roll - I'm going to have to put the stiff spring set back in.

http://www.nrubenstein.com/albums/al..._005.sized.jpg

FT@SGP 08-21-2006 02:35 PM

Why is body roll bad? Running out of camber?

clyde 08-21-2006 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FT@SGP (Post 115222)
Why is body roll bad? Running out of camber?

It's a BMW with a macstrut...what else could it be?

:eeps:

rumatt 08-21-2006 02:48 PM

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Body roll? What body roll?



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Nick M3 08-21-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FT@SGP (Post 115222)
Why is body roll bad? Running out of camber?

Shitty transitional response. Camber is also an issue.

rumatt 08-21-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick M3 (Post 115221)
I'm going to have to put the stiff spring set back in.

Why did you take them out?

Nick M3 08-21-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt (Post 115227)
Why did you take them out?

Seemed like a good idea at the time.

Sharp11 08-21-2006 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt (Post 115225)

Or more accurately, roll stiffness.

And just think, all that positive right side camber with double wishbones ;)

Ed

ff 08-21-2006 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharp11 (Post 115230)
And just think, all that positive right side camber with double wishbones ;)

Ed

Wouldn't it still be negative until the moment where the car loses traction and goes airborne? With all the weight of the car on the right wheels, I'd think there's be even more negative camber.

Nick M3 08-21-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ff (Post 115234)
Wouldn't it still be negative until the moment where the car loses traction and goes airborne? With all the weight of the car on the right wheels, I'd think there's be even more negative camber.

Not really. Negative camber means that the top of the tire is angled towards the car. Strictly speaking, it's always negative unless you hit something or have truly unbeleivably bad geometry. Whenever we say "goes positive" we're referring to the tire's relationship with the road. In this case, unmitigated body roll has that car cornering on the sidewalls. Since it's FWD, it's much harder to cure without creating lots of understeer.

And Ed, don't give me any of that worthless crap about how that particular DW suspension is set up. DWs have far greater potential than struts, but only if they're set up to take advantage of it.


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