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FC 08-31-2006 10:21 AM

'07 MCS sheds 192lbs.
 
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/08/...k-ii-unveiled/

Per Edmunds, current weight stands at 2679. That would make the '07 2487lbs with better power figures and torque of 177lb-ft from 1600 rpm.

That sounds pretty good. I still don't care for it personally, but my wife is obsessed with it. I'm just glad she likes the '07 just in case we get a used one years down the road.

John V 08-31-2006 10:30 AM

Lighter? Must be a typo. After all, BMW is involved with this car.

FC 08-31-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by John V (Post 116095)
Lighter? Must be a typo. After all, BMW is involved with this car.

:D

I did actually have to re-read it when I first saw that.

John V 08-31-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FC (Post 116102)
:D

I did actually have to re-read it when I first saw that.

On a serious note, I think this is awesome. It means BMW actually understands that one of the things consumers like about the MINI is that it's light and feels light.

ff 08-31-2006 01:33 PM

Now if they can just fix the gearing. It's way too tall, making left-turn-rolling-starts in 2nd gear pretty much a near-death experience. Really hurts overall acceleration too. I know the car's capable of so much more.

John V 08-31-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ff (Post 116108)
Now if they can just fix the gearing. It's way too tall, making left-turn-rolling-starts in 2nd gear pretty much a near-death experience. Really hurts overall acceleration too. I know the car's capable of so much more.

I don't think it's dangerous. It's no worse than, say, an S2000 rolling acceleration from low RPM in second gear.

Anyway, that's why they offer a first gear in the transmission ;)

Rob 08-31-2006 02:53 PM

it is definately a transmission that requires first gear. I had forgotten about that feature until it was mentioned here.

JST 08-31-2006 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff (Post 116108)
Now if they can just fix the gearing. It's way too tall, making left-turn-rolling-starts in 2nd gear pretty much a near-death experience. Really hurts overall acceleration too. I know the car's capable of so much more.

Maybe after stripping 200 lbs out that problem will be solved.

ZBB 08-31-2006 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff (Post 116108)
Now if they can just fix the gearing. It's way too tall, making left-turn-rolling-starts in 2nd gear pretty much a near-death experience. Really hurts overall acceleration too. I know the car's capable of so much more.

Its not really that bad... But I sometimes do skip a gear on upshifts... I'll do 1/2/5 on city streets, or 1/3/4/6 if I'm not feeling like going that fast. Important thing on our '02 Cooper S is keeping the revs above ~2500, otherwise its a slug.

Now we just need to list ours so we can sell it before too many people learn about the '07s...

ff 08-31-2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John V (Post 116115)
It's no worse than, say, an S2000 rolling acceleration from low RPM in second gear.

Completely disagree 300%. 400%. It's a big problem with the mini because of the unusually tall gearing and complete lack of torque. And according to the manual, you're not supposed to shift into 1st gear unless you're at a dead stop, or damage to the transmission may result.


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