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lemming 06-27-2018 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wdc330i (Post 532416)
It's been a year since I drove the non-S. Hmm. 6 to 8-9? Both were PDK, so that probably makes a big difference. I doubt I'd get the PDK in the non-S, but it feels just right in the S.

The Boxster is such a different style and feel from my dd, the M240. My car feels fast, light, and tossable, just all around fun and easy. The Boxster feels very Germanic--solid, precise, and powerful, almost menacing. Edit: I should mention that our 718s has the Sport Chrono option, GT steering wheel (with sport button on it) and power steering plus.

Here's a relevant thread, with some interesting bits: https://www.718forum.com/forum/2017-...-chrono-3.html

"From the Porsche website:
"The 718 Boxster S and 718 Cayman S come equipped with variable turbine geometry (VTG). Adjustable guide vanes on the turbine act to combine the benefits of a ‘small’ and a ‘large’ exhaust turbocharger. Derived from the proven 911 Turbo and adapted specifically for the 718 S models, this technology helps to deliver excellent responsiveness at low engine speeds and provide a high maximum power output."

And:
"The S performance is the way to go. These metrics are from Car and Driver instrumentation-based testing:

C/D TEST RESULTS FOR 718 CAYMAN S PDK
Zero to 60 mph: 3.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.7 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 15.2 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 22.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.4 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.5 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.9 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.0 sec @ 117 mph
Top speed (mfr's claim): 177 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 142 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.02 g

C/D TEST RESULTS FOR 718 CAYMAN PDK:

Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.6 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 17.5 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 27.6 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.1 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.9 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.4 sec @ 113 mph
Top speed (drag limited, mfr's claim): 171 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 146 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.00 g

C/D TEST RESULTS 718 CAYMAN MANUAL:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.3 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.5 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 15.5 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 27.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 6.1 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 10.2 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 6.5 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.8 sec @ 109 mph
Top speed (mfr's claim): 171 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 141 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.03 g"

And this from a Car and Driver write up:
VTG, another donation from the 911 Turbo (and notably absent in the new 911), imbues the Boxster S with sharper-seeming responses than the regular Boxster. The 2.5’s larger turbo runs up to 14.5 psi of boost, giving the 350-hp Boxster S a substantial 50 horsepower and 29 lb-ft torque advantage over the 2.0-liter car, whose smaller turbo nonetheless offers up to 20.3 psi of pressure. Both engines produce peak torque below 2000 rpm—280 lb-ft at 1950 rpm for the 2.0-liter and 309 at 1900 for the 2.5, and in each case the full twist is available through 4500 rpm before gently tapering off. Peak horsepower arrives at 6500 rpm for both engines, which rev to 7500 rpm.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...st-ride-review



While my guru swears the new engines here are battle tested, it’s the one thing that makes me nervous. Porsche has never done a first gen engine well.

Other than that these cars are blazingly fast, from the looks of it.

wdc330i 06-27-2018 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lemming (Post 532439)
While my guru swears the new engines here are battle tested, it’s the one thing that makes me nervous. Porsche has never done a first gen engine well.

Other than that these cars are blazingly fast, from the looks of it.

I have a new B58, so everything could blow up on us, I guess.

rumatt 06-27-2018 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lemming (Post 532285)
The engine is proven and it handles the best.

It's proven? What's the history of this engine?

Jeff_DML 06-27-2018 11:46 PM

Seems like the s is under stressed with the bigger displacement and vv turbo.

Edit: tune does not look as impressive as I expected. Maybe vv turbo is the issue.

http://www.cobbtuning.com/wp/app/upl...5_16-32-20.png

ff 06-28-2018 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemming (Post 532439)
Other than that these cars are blazingly fast, from the looks of it.

No kidding. :eek:

JST 06-28-2018 07:28 AM

Jesus, the base models are running 12s in the 1/4?

lemming 06-28-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JST (Post 532447)
Jesus, the base models are running 12s in the 1/4?



Right?

That’s basically super car territory until 5 years ago.


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