The steering wheel is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. The "Plaid +" model shows 520+ miles of range, though, which is interesting.

my first thought too

You're gonna love it!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1354680585139187713

If you think you hate it now... wait until you drive it.

It's probably magical 99% of the time.

It's the dumbest goddamn thing I've ever seen.

Come to think of it, it's surprising they haven't been for discriminating against the disabled yet. I can understand why no government agency has gone after them for ADA violations yet, though.

This is going to be juicy for whoever does it first.

Genuinely curious how this is an ADA violation? You can't drive if you're vision impaired. And the obvious counterargument is that "we're doing it automatically" increases accessibility.

I mean, it's hilariously awful that they're doing this, and I look forward to reading about the accidents that this causes. But the accessibility angle is one that puzzles me.

I was trying to figure out why the American Dental Association would care.

Actually, you're right in that it's probably not an ADA violation, but it's clearly discriminatory.

You can drive if you're vision impaired as long as your vision meets the state required minimum competency.

If basic and required controls require capacitive touch control operation by a specific hand (center stack, console, side of the wheel, etc) how does someone without use of that hand operate the car? Think stroke survivor, amputee with non-capacitive prosthetic, etc.

What if someone kind of has use of that hand, but not an ability to locate taps/slides with the accuracy and precision needed for operation?

My mother is a stroke survivor without use of her right arm who drove traditional cars without issue for about 30 years following the stroke with cheap and simple adaptive equipment (left foot throttle pedal and, sometimes, a spinner knob on the wheel).

Soon after high school, I had a roommate that was born with weird muscle and bone issues that left his right hand bent nearly 180 degrees back on his forearm and his left hand in a similar, but not as severe state. These did not impede his ability to drive a traditional vehicle without extra equipment.

I have not been following Tesla's efforts to support the disabled community, so maybe they're way ahead on this and they have it all covered. :dunno:

If they make adaptive equipment, then, cool. If they open the systems up to third parties to create/install third party adaptive equipment, then, cool.

If they say, "too bad," then, as the thread says, "Fuck Tesla."

If they are, as you are suggesting, fucking over the abled as much as the disabled by preventing all drivers from operating controls, then it's not so discriminatory as much as "Fuck Tesla."

Tesla's answer is that you shouldn't need to use the touch screen in normal operation. It's worked out automatically. Ergo, increased accessibility. Not decreased.

I'll pile on to this. F@&K Tesla! More specifically, fuck Elon. Yeah, I know there is a bright geeky guy who has done a lot of good in there somewhere, but the ego and the pumping random new shit just because it's new shit has to stop.

Why would Elon suddenly pump bitcoin (or dogecoin for that matter)? A random thing of either very high or perhaps very low value.. I understand how it works, and there are a million copies possible. It happens to be the first widely accepted cryptocurrency. It's not a currency, in fact it's a commodity. Would tesla also accept payment in silver? How would prices move?

At this point, I can't help but think it's a power trip for him. He tweets Doge and watches it jump, it's addictive. Even if you recently became the richest man on earth.

Mystified and quite annoyed. It's not the business of a car company to get involved in crypto-bubbles. But I guess if bubbles have made you, why not?

Fuck Tesla
 

Yep - before Tesla got big he came across as a charmingly geeky and bright guy with some good ideas. Clearly success has gotten to his head and he’s long since gone off the deep end with all sorts of bs. Also, once you get that rich and famous it’s easy to surround yourself with sycophants who won’t check your bs.


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Is Mercedes-Benz out there pumping gamestop or shitcoin or the bubble of the week? Not just irresponsible but unfocused. You're in the car business. Not in the business of pumping risky, questionable commodities. I get it he is getting free marketing and controversy and hype, as well as favorable opinion from the crypto cult, but how is that different from Old Trumpy manipulating crowds when it suited him?

I'm not alone in this. Also Dogecoin is up 1000% this year. What fun...

I guess the power and joy of tweeting is too great. The article doesn't say it but at this point, there is not a bubble this boy has not egged on: Gamestonk, Dogecoin, BTC, his own stock... And then the sinister side of it, tweeting BTC is bs in Dec, having your company buy $1.5B of it, and then tweeting you have it, increasing its value. Then again, he got off super-lightly on more stark manipulation, so why should he pay for this game?

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-disconcerting

Yeah, that's some BS. I know nothing about the SEC, but t smells like it ought to be investigated.

The rules don't apply to people like Elon.

Has anyone else here read "The PayPal Wars"?

I read a LONG time ago and don't recall what kind of picture it painted of Musk, but I do recall that general perceptions were that it was a pretty accurate telling of the PayPal story. It was very well written and engaging.

It did a great job of describing the landscape at the time and I refer that mental model sometimes to provide context for how he operates today having had that formative experience back then. Not sure that's fair to him. I'm sure that I don't care, though.

Mostly, I wish there were more business books written in a similar voice.

Anyway, highly recommended light reading to anyone on this board who hasn't read it.

I'm wondering if / when Bitcoin gets outlawed.

Why would it be outlawed? It's super useful having a currency that can be tracked that people think cannot be tracked.

Which is presumably why China hasn't stomped on it. But I was more thinking the extreme carbon footprint that radically escalates as a designed in feature.

http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attach...1&d=1613002035

:eeps:

Musk should be tried for murder every time one of his cars kills someone.

Wow.

That's definitely not safe to use yet.

Its level of incompetence is actually making it not be too unsafe. It'll get riskier before it gets better. After some but not enough improvement, users will rely on it more.

Sobering.

Not sure if this thread is just for cars, but is anyone following problems with Tesla solar installations? Whistleblower got canned

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/22/tesl...psc-probe.html

I think this might be the last straw for me, honestly.

https://jalopnik.com/new-tesla-gear-...ars-1846543789

I'm still a bit concerned about the prevalence of the CCS charging network, but a Taycan or even a Mach E might be may next move.

:eek:

Best line in the article: "Okay, at the risk of the Children of Elon getting all pissy with me all over the internet, I’m going to go out on a limb and say this gear shifting method sucks, pretty comprehensively."

Unfortunately, I think we'll see similar things from other automakers in the coming years. Porsche's ever shrinking gear lever may be a sign of things to come. But yeah, this type of thing would drive me bonkers.

Seems like the CCS charging network is slowly getting better.

F THAT.

Eh, on the other hand, seriously I might just get another ICE.

Maybe one of the last Cadillac manuals?


https://twitter.com/johnvoelcker/sta...338713097?s=20

Oy. On the other hand, the price of gas is going up and up. I may stop gratuitously feeding the Mazda high octane (gains a little of performance in the turbo engine.)

You'd look great in a CT5-V Blackwing

Actually I think it did pretty well since that driving scenario is very difficult, hell I would have issues driving there. I would hate be a engineer working on it with Musk yelling at me:lol:

https://jalopnik.com/buyers-are-figh...dly-1846577393

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/29/tesl...-new-cars.html

So, Tesla is straight out literally robbing their customers by taking money out of their customers' bank accounts without authorization. Jesus.

edit: corrected typo to read correctly as, "taking money out of their customers' bank accounts without authorization."

I was wondering how Tesla planned to solve its profitability issue. Thanks for the update.

From the article, just this part is absurd.

Communicating with Tesla has always been a notoriously difficult affair, with much of the company’s public relations running strangely through CEO Elon Musk’s Twitter account. We’ve reported that Tesla has made it nearly impossible for publications to contact the company, so like CNBC, we’ve been unable to reach Tesla for a statement on this story.

Yes, this is stupid. I am deeply irritated by nearly everything to do with Tesla's corporate governance. I am further irritated by the fact that all of this nonsense aside they continue to make the best EVs out there, by a large margin.

I’m trying to figure out how this happened.

When I bought the Model 3, I paid at pickup by logging into my Tesla account and entering my banking info and clicking Pay. I saw the funds debited from my account the next day (normal ACH timing...). I authorized a one tune payment only.

I’m wondering if the site glitched and ran 2x or if Tesla batches these and sent the file 2x by accident...