Hi. I’m following your saga —I’m with ya. Sorry my delivery is delayed. It will be at PEC LA. Needed to do the PPF and all of that jazz first. And then my killer schedule. It’s delayed because of me really. (Sorry)

To be honest, if the Carrera S is as fast as I know it is, I could loosen my grip on the GT3. There’s a lot of if’s there.

The only thing I can say about my 2018 Carrera T is that it was adequate power if I shifted the hell out of it. But the gap between that 991.2 base powerplant and the 991.2 Turbo S is vast. And i wanted something closer to the middle but with a manual.

My current thinking right now is sell my GT3 6 speed and try to get on a list for a 992.2 Speedster. Or buy a CPO 911 Sport Classic.

Just asked (politely) if I could be put on 992.2 Speedster list. 2028 car looks like.

The last gen Speedster is the only 911 after the 997 that really interests me

Agreed. The $$$ makes no sense to me, but yeah.

Dude.

They’re still asking over $400,000. And they’re all 5 years old now.

It’s incredible.

That’s why I’m trying to just get a new one. If they’re going to cost that much, I’ll try for new then. Fine.

I guess at one time Spike and Zuckerman owned a 991 Speedster, but they apparently did not care for it that much and cut it loose pretty quickly. Not all that surprising as they kind of have car ADD.

Edit: Which by the way, I suspect I might now have myself.:lol:

Sean, this completely sucks you are thinking of getting rid of it, forget the break in and just drive the freakin thing, it might change your mind.

You have barely gotten to know this car and I really doubt redline will be hurting it at 600 miles.

Porsches change a lot at the upper end of the rpm’s. Just floor it and go from there and I know you’re going to respond that Porsche can see it …. Whoop Dee do … you paid $140k just drive it already.

I could never imagine Sean doing this while in technical break-in!

Thanks for the advice Alan. I am simply not in love with it and I suspect subconsciously my mind has already closed the chapter on it. BTW, with ttt and PPF I am in at $150k. :rolleyes:

FYI, I spent a full day driving it 150 miles through the Mtns. which included going through The Dragon to NC and back to TN (318 turns in 11 miles) a month ago. Nothing mind blowing was discovered during the process.

My former BMW client advisor for decades, whom retired at the end of January called me three weeks ago to check-in as we became friends over the past 30+ years. This happened to be the first time that I made him aware that I had purchased a new 911. His advice was, “If you do not love it now then you are never going to love it, so it truly makes zero sense to keep it in hope that you eventually force yourself into liking it.” He is 100% correct.

I originally wanted a manual S and settled for a T because I could acquire one quicker, clearly this might have not been the best idea. It would appear that when you have the itch for something specifically, you cannot scratch that itch with something else. Obviously hindsight now.


You would be 100% accurate, especially with me knowing that PAG can internally see the rev ranges if they so desire. Which I confidently know if there is a powertrain related failure, they will fully investigate as to why. I do not want to be held accountable for one, especially financially.

4300 RPM is my infrequent limit at 6XX miles and obviously only at the full operating temp of 205-210°.

Yes. It was also in the back of my mind that today’s computers in cars can rat you out in a heartbeat. And that’s especially a problem if you want to flip the car fast.

Exactly…. Everyone wants an over-rev report on a preowned, manual 911 and since the 997 the ranges are numbered 1 through 6. Edit: BTW, Anything in the 4-6 range is consider unfavorable. PDK equipped vehicles are not a concern with over-revs as the car simply will not let it occur.

The thing is, we all know PDK is vastly superior.

You really tend to miss the driving experience with a manual though.

Kudos for trying to like the T —

I enjoyed the PDK in the Boxster T service loaner that I had last fall. Would I easily bore of it over time? Absolutely! So long as a manual option is offered that will be the transmission that I spec.

By the way, I would not want to have to pay out-of-pocket to replace a failed PDK past the factory warranty. A $30k tab and since my friend has been a technician at the local dealership I have witnessed several of them being replaced. When they take a dump, they do it in a grand fashion.

The 7 speed manual in the T with the GTS SSK isn’t bad, you do have to be aware of your downshifts.

:eek::eek::eek:

Yuck… see below from PAG.

Maybe I missed something trying but I don’t see anything new or surprising in that message ?


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Simply further confirmation that the hybrid 911s are coming and soon… This PAG press release was published yesterday.


BTW, I was recently offered a 992.1 S allocation, July production via a midwestern dealer. $10k nonrefundable deposit. :lol: My deposit for the T was $0.

Why would the S work but not the T? Power does not seem to be the issue to me more of a modern numb car issue.

More zippy, zippy…

I am with Jeff on this one Sean, you really should test drive one from maybe one of the Porsche guys you know. I never found an S to be much better then a base, I would have had a base 991 but could only get an allocation back in 2012 for an S which is the only reason I went with one.

My 997 was a base which I believe you have and it was awesome.

I know of no one with a manual or even a PDK 992.1 S. In fact I rarely ever see one locally.

The 997.2 base is a 3.6 putting out the power of a 997.1 S. The 997.2 S is a 3.8 and typically more prone to the bore scoring than the 3.6. And yes, the .2 is still prone to bore scoring. The dot twos are not immune to the problem.

I’ll not have an informed opinion for a couple of weeks. But then I will be able to weigh in. It’s quite difficult to chase down even a CPO Carrera S with a manual to drive —they go fast.

There’s not a whole lot of preowned anything close by me that could be test driven. There’s inventory —but it’s like you’re asking to get laughed at if you want to test drive the Sport Classic, a GT3 or GT3RS.

2024 Porsche 911 Carrera T Review - Not Enough Car For The Money?

https://youtu.be/mRC8Q8oKyiM?si=D5K3VpzWj56kViYm

So I did a roadtrip down to SW VA this weekend. Had a blast in the mountains. Got to do a couple of really nice runs on 211; the weather on Sunday was perfect.

I saw 3 911s but only one other Boxster (a 986), and given the day and the roads I just can’t imagine that those 911 guys were having anywhere near as much fun as I was.

I fully support your sentiments above.

My SA texted, some how he has scored me a 992.1 S allocation. This is all I know as we have not spoken yet.

I watched that video and at the end he sort of mentioned it should have more power but took it as his main complaints were numbness/overly competent:dunno:

Edit: the other video , I thought he liked the S because it was older and half the cost

Exciting?

I have been on the configurator for the past 2.5+ hours with a small break to eat a lite dinner. :lol:

Ha! So the answer is yes.

I was basically told last week there was no way in hell that they could get me one and I would have to wait for the .2. So I seriously thought he was joking when I received the text at nearly 6 o’clock. He did warn me that if they got one via a PCNA lottery that I would have to give him the specs immediately. I am now prepared to hand them over in the morning.

So what are the specs??

Right. Inquiring minds want to know.

Manual C2S ordered. The commission number and printout are in hand. If all goes as planned per PAG it should be here around late August. I had my choice of two allocations and selected the later build scheduled to occur in July.

Edit: I am not divulging the build this time around, you guys will just have to wait until I have taken delivery.

Woah! Congrats! :cool::)

Thank you…

Wow two allocations—interesting.

That’s super cool. Well done.

I wonder if they opened up these bonus allocations because the 992.2s are delayed and they dont want the factory floor to sit idle when they know they can keep printing money?

Anyway, who cares. Getting the last of the 992.1 run is great.

When i looked at the dates on mine, it was March 3rd build and April 26th at the dealer. Stuff can happen fast when everything is working and no parts are constrained!

Since my car is here and will be delivered (next week at PEC) —these are the options. It was not excessive….

how much higher than $50,000 in options would make it excessive :D