Need some UHP all-season tire recommendations please
I'm about 1/16" above the wear bars on my current all-season Yokohamas.
I'm researching some tires, and have narrowed it down to these: (1) Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ (2) Pirelli P Zero All Season Plus (3) BFGoodrich g-Force COMP-2 A/S (4) Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS (5) Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Don't do any autocrosses or racing of any kind. Thanks in advance. |
I run conti dws on my e46 and X5 and love them. Quiet, great in weather, perform well and wear well. I don't think you can beat them for the cost.
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Tire rack test: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=222
Another one (with DWS, Pilot sport A/S 3+, P Zero All Season Plus, Potenza RE980S): https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=230 Spoiler alert, seems like the Pilot A/S 3+ wins. |
Yeah that’s what I found when I looked a while ago.
Had P Zero all seasons on the first Golf. They were fine but got super loud as they wore. The Pilots that I replaced them with seemed better in every way. |
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I wish there were more cross-category tests. I'd like to see a comparison of the snow and dry performance of some manufacturer's: snow, HP snow, AS, and HPAS tires.
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The DWS is the choice if you want snow performance from an A/S tire. It gives up a lot in the dry vs. the Pilot to get that, though.
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I put the DWS 06 on the Jaguar before driving it back from San Diego. For just regular driving, they're fine.
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I have had Michelin Pilot Sport A/S, A/S 2, A/S 3 and now A/S 3+ on various E38's for upwards of 250,000 miles or so.
For what I have wanted - they have worked excellently. I have driven the cars in upwards of 3 to 5 inches of snow - and the car did 'ok' (it did better than I expected - considering the car is not a snow vehicle at all). I drive in LOTS of rain. Both the slow drizzle (just to get things wet rain) as well in the 'get the Ark ready' heavy downpour - a great number of miles in all kinds of wet... The tires have always given me confidence in getting around and allowing me to drive how I wanted, without undue influence from the rain in slowing me down too much (so to speak). Ice - a bit of that, but not too much. I really don't like driving in ice, so not too much on the tires that way (Yukon/F250 get way more use that way). But- these tires have always treated me well here too - I just have to drive for conditions. Good luck I know there are other good tires out there as well, I have just always been treated fairly by these PS A/S tires, so - I really don't look around too much. |
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The second comparison JV linked mentioned the only con of being a bit harsh over bumps. Did you ever feel they were too firm? |
Thanks for your replies.
I keep a record of all the tires I've used on my E46. In order: (1) OEM Michelin Energy MXV4 Plus (40,840 miles) (2) Pirelli P Zero Nero M&S (50,955 mostly highway miles) (3) Michelin Pilot Sport A/S (28,538 miles) (4) Yokohama YK580 (currently with 30,806 miles) Right now, I'm leaning towards the Michelin A/S 3+. However, I've never ran BFG all-seasons on my cars before, and am curious how they'll perform. They seem to rate high on Tire Rack's rankings. (BTW, the BFG All-Terrains on my truck has impressed me so....) |
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The DWS and its predecessors (as well as its cousin, the DW) all have soft sidewalls.
Cost always matters, but disregarding for a sec, the best two tires in Lou's list are the Michelin's and the B-stones (they will be monsters in the wet), we ran them on Cara's Si for (the 960AS). Currently have the 97AS in the 2015 GTI and those are good too... BFG's make good truck tires. I'm not sure about their sporty offerings. The tread pattern always looks loud on them, but don't have much experience. I used to like P-zero nero a/s way back when (about 2006 or 2007). Smooth when new. I'm so unhappy with the lack of grip and quick breakaway of the summer P-zero's on my boxster that Pirelli may never see a dollar from me again (at least for cars). Sure apples & oranges. But.. Similarly aged MPSS on my m3 have grip, while the P-zero N0 porsche tires are shite. |
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