So who's going to be the first...
 

...to bring home a '20 Corvette?

If I had to bet: Clyde.

I'm pushing all my chips on AF. This instead of the i8

Interesting call. But, he's not really a domestic kind of guy...

Yep...

More than clyde would want to spend.

More GM than AF would want to own.


I'm going for the JV as the dark horse.



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He's had at least two gens of corvettes, IIRC.

I'm definitely not buying the first model year. But I'd be lying if I said the C8 was not on my radar.

If nothing else the C8 is making my car inertia even worse :lol:

Not sure about the ass end. Or the 400 buttons on the console.

But it looks like an incredible car. The C7 used market is going to be pretty interesting.

Alex

I really wish they'd have a manual as an option at some point, but doesn't seem to be in the cards. Very compelling car regardless.

Agree with Josh PA that it will be AF.

My C8 thoughts in the other thread.

For $60k new, I'm buying a Camaro ZL1 long before a C8.

I am definitely considering this car, like it’s mentioned here I’m not a Chevy/American guy but I always LOVED the Corvette ... I had 4 of them plus I showed a picture of this new model to my wife and she loved it. That is a pretty big thing in my household because while she appreciates a hot car she isn’t a car person but she always loved our corvettes. That could also be because they were automatics and she could drive them.

The biggest downside to buying a Corvette is the dealer service, back when I had them there were a couple of big Corvette dealers with Corvette techs, nowadays that is over, Long Island corvette specialists are gone and I have a hard time going to a Chevy dealer for service being they all look like they are from the 70’s.

OK, so I lose. :lol:

Yep, me too.

I’m with JV. Skipping the first model year of a massively new chassis seems prudent.

Nice one Josh!

So I regret to say that I really don’t like the way this car looks. It looks like it doesn’t have enough tire or wheel in the 3/4 view, and that...strake or whatever it is on the side is just weird. It juts forward at an angle that doesn’t relate to anything around it; it’s not cohesive and it doesn’t convey speed. It just looks like they needed a unique style element and pulled that one out of the cardboard box in the corner.

I’m sure it will be amazing to drive, but the more I look at it the less I want to look at it.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g2...ocialflowFBCAD

Robert Cumberford agrees with you:
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...sign-analysis/

Robert Cumberford doesn't really like many cars that he didn't design.

I don't love every detail of the design (the four square tailpipes are ... blech), but the more I look at pictures of it, the more I like it as a whole. I'm not a huge fan of any of the factory wheels, but wheels are easy to fix. Exhaust is easy to fix as well.

And of course, the Z51 cars are going to look better because, well, they're lower.

Given that you own a Tesla 3, which is....subjectively challenging to look at, what mid engine car suits your eye?

I’m curious because I find most of them to be challenging.

(Except for the Porsche models)

Well, the Porsches. The R8 is nice enough. I like the GT a lot; the NSX both old and new are ok.

I like the Huracan.

Okay fine.

Can’t argue with those.

The model 3 actually looks to me like something Porsche might design. I do appreciate how “clean” it is with very little ornamentation. Makes you realize how much styling gingerbread is on most modern cars.

You like the NSX? That, to me, is a newer car that is kind of a mess from a styling perspective. But that's sort of Honda's thing.

I know that styling and exhaust note are really subjective (which was JST’s point).

I think Ferrari has become soulless and the Italian equivalent of a Honda Civic Si —too fussy. I’m not a super fan of Lambo either. There’s something weird and soft about the McLarens. Love the Ford GT. Probably my favorite super car right now for looks.

I don’t think there’s a better looking car right now than the 718. It’s clean and classic looking. Less strakes and louvers than the BMW M standard these days.

The C8 reminds me more of design elements I like in the Acura NSX of the 90s. It speaks to me.

I also think the American V8 sound is intoxicating. It trumps the high pitched overly echo-y Ferrari sound to my ears.

That written I haven’t driven this car. I worry about the steering feel and the sheer size of this thing. I hate the new 911 size and this is likely bigger.

I agree about the 718. Best looking Boxster so far.

FIXED

Besides the head and tail lights what looks wise is so different.

Btw I wish those two items where interchangeable with the 981. ESP the taillights. The are worlds better on the 718.

So who's going to be the first...
 

Totally agree on American v8s. I rented a Ford Mustang GT convertible this past weekend and the sound alone made me happy. Previously I’ve rented Charger RTs a few times that have also put a smile on my face. Not sure why I’m only now appreciating American v8s at 45. Only downside is that I got around 12 mpg in both cars because I loved hearing the sound when accelerating.

I was in high school in the early 80’s and muscle cars were dirt cheap. I had three in a row. 70 charger 383, 71 GTO 400 and a 69 383 roadrunner.

The V8 sound of my youth will always be part of me and make me smile. Sound and gear rowing is what I grew up with and will always be hard to let go. #NoTeslaForMe

That is pretty cool ... where can you rent one of these ? Was this outside of NY ?

I can agree with that.

So who's going to be the first...
 

Was in LA from Enterprise. LA is great for car rentals - you can get prettt much anything and even the regular rental companies have cool cars. They had a Tesla 75D in the lot as well. And when I returned it, someone pulled in with an SRT challenger (which i’d also love to try). I like enterprise cause they let you pick your car from the lot - so I usually just book a regular midsize or full-size and then try and get a better car - sometimes they don’t bother charging more.

Did more thinking on this.

Porsche sent a blanket email to fan boi types (I am one) about the new Porsche RSR race car. It clearly states “engine ahead of rear axle”.

The reality is is probably be more likely to buy the next gen 911 which will be mid engined.

I still love the idea of a midship C8 though. But in my heart of hearts I know Porsche will get the details right whereas with the Chevy we all agree they might gloss over details that Porsche gets done correctly.

It's basically impossible to buy a 911 for less than $100 grand these days. I think the base car's MSRP is $91k with no options, but essentially zero of those cars ever reach a dealership.

The C8 (even the Z51) plays in a different market.

If you get an allocation you can order whatever you want so if a base 911 with no options is what you desire then that is the way to get it. I ordered mine exactly how I wanted it.

So who's going to be the first...
 

I haven’t looked in a while - what’s the most ridiculous thing that Porsche omits from the base 911? Keyless entry? Weirdly I think a nav system is standard.

Sure. But based on used-car searches, base, zero-option 911s and Boxsters simply do not exist.

So who's going to be the first...
 

Sure but most options depreciate to like 20% or less of their original price so there wouldn’t be much difference in price between a stripper 911 and one with 15k of options on the used market.

Probably even more true of most Porsche options since used buyers aren’t going to care that you paid 500 for red seat belts or 1000 to cover the steering column in leather.

Yep. But my point was that comparing a $70k (new) Z51 C8 to a $91k (new) base 911 that basically doesn't exist is kind of silly. Realistically, unless you really really want to order a base, stripper 911, the car you're going to find at a dealer will have $10k in options on it.

This all reminds me of a long-time buddy of mine who went to a BMW dealer to order the E46 M3 when it was announced. He spec'd it out with manual, cloth seats, no sunroof. No options at all. The dealer flat out would not order it for him. They were worried he'd bail on the sale and they'd be left with a stripper M3 they couldn't sell. I'd have to ask him the specifics but he had to put down a huge non-refundable deposit for them to place the order.

And now that m3 spec that way is worth good money:eeps: