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AF 09-22-2017 10:00 PM

Test drove the 991.2
 
This deserves its own thread :D

Just came back from a test drive of a base 991.2. First impression is the car is significantly quieter though with the sport exhaust on you still get the gurgles and burbles ... in fact you here them more then you do the engine since the engine is so quiet. Iím not quite sure if I am describing this right, you hear the burbles clearer because you donít hear engine noise though the burbles seem more muted then my car.

In my car the engine is louder and with the sport exhaust it gets even more so. When I rip though the gears my car feels very visceral .. you feel and hear the engine and exhaust which I didnít get that feeling with the 991.2 though it was just a test drive maybe living with it and driving it more I might get that feeling.

The steering on the 991.2 is a little heavier, tighter and is quicker off center where mine has a little more play off center. Overall it is improved and feels better then mine

The 991.2 base is faster than my 991.1 S and the pdk shifts insanely fast (first pdk 991 I ever drove) ... like WOW it shifts so fast in sport plus mode it feels like it is slamming into the next gear, it is pretty incredible. With that said off the line it is really disappointing because when you hit the pedal the car crawls off the line for a couple of seconds until the turbo kicks in and then it is fast as hell, The speed is way more then anyone needs for the road but that lag :rant:

The interior is also a little updated though I only played around a little bit, this car had the 18 way seats and they are tighter around the body than the 14 way seats I have but I do prefer my seats.

After the test drive I got back into my car and really enjoyed the NA engine which is weird because iím not the type to prefer one over the other normally but in this case I really love how my car pulls through the gears and feels on the upper end.

By the way they are discounting them 5% off msrp which is much better then I got on my car but then again I got one of the first 7speed manuals made in the US

Overall it is an awesome car and I would be happy with one but I do feel it is a step in the direction kind of like bmw has been doing where the newer car does feel like it is losing some of that drivers connection compared to the prior model.

Jeff_DML 09-22-2017 11:41 PM

Thanks for the review

A 991.2 with sport exhaust drive by me today while I was on the side of the road and it sounded bad ass. I like the pops too.

equ 09-23-2017 09:22 AM

I have the PSE on my 981S. I don't love the pops and burbles, I think it's overdone and unnecessary. Unfortunately, they increase in sport and sport+ (even if the exhaust is not on).

I've had a wonderful carbureted bike with a flowing exhaust and some of the best exhaust notes ever. It had just the slights burbles on the overrun.

For a modern fuel-injected porsche to emulate that by adding drops of fuel is annoying to me. The emulation isn't even good, it's too much. If I could delete the pops/burbles by software I could. The engine & exhaust sound itself as the car is revving is great (was not as good on the GT4). The pops are like guns going off, and turn heads if you like that sort of attention.

AF 09-23-2017 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by equ (Post 512617)
I have the PSE on my 981S. I don't love the pops and burbles, I think it's overdone and unnecessary. Unfortunately, they increase in sport and sport+ (even if the exhaust is not on).

I've had a wonderful carbureted bike with a flowing exhaust and some of the best exhaust notes ever. It had just the slights burbles on the overrun.

For a modern fuel-injected porsche to emulate that by adding drops of fuel is annoying to me. The emulation isn't even good, it's too much. If I could delete the pops/burbles by software I could. The engine & exhaust sound itself as the car is revving is great (was not as good on the GT4). The pops are like guns going off, and turn heads if you like that sort of attention.

Couldn’t you just switch out the exhaust for a non pse if it bothers you that much ? I’m sure someone would switch with you if you wanted.

Also I have to say here we are opposites, I love the burbles I couldn’t imagine having my car without this option.

rumatt 09-23-2017 09:46 AM

I think I would appreciate the sport exhaust actually, but I wouldn't know for sure until living with it.

wdc330i 09-23-2017 11:12 AM

My M240 has stupid pops and burbles (augmented by software) that are also worse in Sport and Sport+. Apparently there is some way to code them out.

We don't have the PSE on the 718s (do have Sport Chrono), but it actually sounds similar to my 2. Probably fake too.

On a side note, I get the LSD put on the 2 on Tuesday. Looking forward to it.

equ 09-23-2017 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AF (Post 512619)
Couldnít you just switch out the exhaust for a non pse if it bothers you that much ? Iím sure someone would switch with you if you wanted.

Also I have to say here we are opposites, I love the burbles I couldnít imagine having my car without this option.

I don't think I made myself clear.

I like the exhaust, PSE on or off. I don't like the bangs. The pop/bangs happen even when PSE is off, in sport or sport+ mode.

equ 09-23-2017 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wdc330i (Post 512623)
My M240 has stupid pops and burbles (augmented by software) that are also worse in Sport and Sport+. Apparently there is some way to code them out.

Yesss! This is what I need to do.

Theo 09-23-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wdc330i (Post 512623)
On a side note, I get the LSD put on the 2 on Tuesday. Looking forward to it.

That's awesome!! Around 2k? Looking forward to the review.

Theo 09-23-2017 07:41 PM

One of the first things I did when I got my car was install magnoflow cans. I kept the stock ones in case the next owner wants them but the car was way to quiet stock. The manga flows really open up the sound without being to crazy. Overruns are music to me.

I did have a focus RS run past me today. Talk about crazy pops and bangs.


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