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How does a search of our forum not turn up any X1 Posts?

At any rate. Drove an Xdrive version today. Blech. No way that's in the running for the future. Torque steer was apparent at every curve+acceleration. No reason to buy it/pay the BMW premium over any other Japanese SUV out there.

My mom has one and I've driven it several times (once on a 200 mile road trip). I actually like the looks of it and the interior seems high quality for the price. Has enough power, etc. My main issue with it is just that it felt very "bouncy" to the point that it made me car sick. Maybe if it had adaptive dampers it would be better- or maybe it was something wrong with hers. I think if you compare it with compact Japanese SUVs, the x1 would be quicker, look better and has better tech -- so there is an argument to be made for it. You can usually find pretty aggressive lease deals on them as well. That being said, my mom doesn't seem too thrilled with it (though she doesnt have specific reasons).

Yes. I suppose I might lease one. But I really don't even want to drive it...at least not as speced. Now, this one was a relatively stripped Xdrive. But, woof.

I still have to try out the Mazda CX5.

I drove an X3 M40 as well. And of course, I was MUCH happier with that. However, it had a lot of lean in tight turns. It was an Msport, but with the standard suspension and no handling packages. It would have to have those for me to buy.


All that said, I was delighted to get back in my little 2 series.

Yeah, it's always going to feel weird test driving an SUV coming from a 2 series. When I was looking at x3 40s, I noticed that it was really hard to find one on a dealer lot with adaptive dampers. And if it did have them, it also had the larger wheels (which personally I wouldnt want). Of course, it's easy/fast enough to custom order one given that they build them in the US, but you probably can't negotiate quite as good of a deal. In thinking about it, I guess a CX5 would be better than an x1 in nearly every way except infotainment.

Yes, the huge wheel thing does add a complicating factor for cars on the lot. My best bet is an "executive car" slightly used deal. They tend to have some esoteric options. Atlanta is a strong market for those cars, as we are a big BMW region and close to S.C.

I'd have to wait for the 2020s to come through, though, as they have the better engine tweak.

I drove a loaded x2 some months back; while I was doing the new G-series 3er mock auto-x. While the new 3er is decent, the x2 was quite terrible. There was nothing special about its ride and handling. But it did have mini-roundels on its C-pillars, yo!

Because ayn long ago configured search to not search to not actually conduct searches for terms with fewer than 4 characters. At the time, he was concerned about performance impacts on other things running on the server.

I wondered about that, and looked at one on the floor. It has an LSD, too, and the higher hp 4 cylinder engine. But it's the same FWD platform as the X1.

Part of the calculus in driving these cars was also to see if I could live without my 2 to get one. And, given my feeling upon getting back into my car, the answer is no.

Ah.

Ah- didn't realize the 2 series would have to go. Yeah, you definitely would not want to give up a 2 series for an x1 if at all possible

Still figuring this out. I would prefer to have one car for many reasons (mostly financial), but it appears it would be a joy killer for that one car to be an SUV.

Edit: Apparently there's no reason to go down the rabbit hole of the X3 M. https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/x3-m

My dad has the new x1... it's fine. Drives OK, shifts better than my x5 and fits an acceptable amount of stuff. I wouldn't buy it, but I wouldn't dread it as a loaner/rental either.

The X3 with the b58 I had as a loaner was really quite nice. It is curently the most rational option to replace our x5 next year. I wouldn't want it to replace my 1er if I had a choice, but I would be OK daily driving it if it was necessary. I left it with my wife for a couple hours and she felt the same way (it was nicer in most ways than the e70 and would be a good replacement).

The x3m reviews all sound miserable. Sure it has a boatload of power, but it is still a heavy pogo stick SUV, I'd rather it be too far to the comfort side rather than too crashy /harsh.

You should check a v60 and report back. I'm really curious how those are. I read the polestar review on the news forum today, and while it wasn't glowing, it does seem like a pretty nice package.

The Cx-5 is my defacto recommendation to anyone thats not a serious car person but wants something nice.

Interesting all around.

I guess I should check out the Volvo. The last one I drove was about 9-10 years ago. The XC70. And it suffered horribly from turbo lag. I also owned a Volvo 850 sedan (my parents had the wagon). The cars were great for passengers, but no fun to drive. They were quasi-luxurious at a luxury car price for repairs. Maybe that's all improved.

The V60 does look great for dog hauling...Hoisting my 75 pound dog into the back of the X5 is no joy. But, if I keep the 2, I want the other car to be AWD. The Blue Ridge, Smokies, and other ranges are pretty close by to Atlanta.

Edit: Wait, now I see the "Cross Country" AWD version. Strange it isn't listed with the other V60s...

Yeah. Seems like most reviews mention the overly stiff suspension.

The F-Pace SVR sounds like it has a more compliant suspension (+ V8 sound). Would be more flawed in some ways vs an X3M but sounds kind of intriguing in the "super SUV" segement. But with either of those trucks we're talking a totally different price level

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/...wd/first-drive

Kind of off-topic, but i also grew up with Volvos (240s and 740s). The v60 wagon looks pretty nice- but no idea how it drives. I saw and old 850 wagon on the street the other day was kind of digging it.

"Boxy, but good." The 850 had great room inside and in the trunk, and the best seats on the planet. It looks like that continues in the V60...Gotta go drive one.

I just can't see buying a Jaguar over a Porsche...

Speaking of which, what are your thoughts on the Macan? Too small for the dog?

(I think the value prop of the Jag would be that it's roomier/faster/has a v8 than a Macan of the same price, but I understand what you mean).

I appreciate the 850 a lot more after racing one. :lol:

Right.

Two dogs. I need to drive a Macan—at least an S. If I love it, I’d need to shop used. (I’ve only driven a Cayenne.)

The other factor is my growing son. He’s 5’7” at 13 and has not hit his growth spurt yet. I am often shuttling him and his friends to and fro.

Right! :lol:

A used A4 wagon is not out of the question either...

Quick suggestion is the new Acura RDX ... something about that suv looks very attractive

The new V60 is sexaaay. Report back if you do.

Will do!

The Macan & F-Pace are earnest competitors. Certainly fit, finish, button-down feel go to Macan, but the F-Pace is kind of fun and more spacious. It feels even more RWD than the Macan and has better weight distribution though generally a freer, looser, perhaps lighter feel. One thing that put me off it was how capable it would be blasting through unplowed lots with 1-2ft of snow. For light 'awd', I'd still consider it.

And if you’re looking at the F Pace, the Velar might also be worth a view.

I do think they’re good looking. But had always heard they were mediocre. I guess everything needs to be on the radar.

I will be busy test driving everything, it seems ;)

I woke up this morning asking myself if I could get by with the upcoming M3 awd sedan...(surely that’s more practical than a two-door soft-top :D)

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Even with the v6, the velar felt underpowered to me - slower than its decent 0-60 time would suggest. Will be great when/if they put the inline 6 in it. Beautiful car though.


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Haven't driven the Velar which I agree is beautiful... I've read that it's the softer of the platform twins compared to the F-Pace.

Yep. I think if the x3 40i didn’t feel engaging enough there’s no way you’d be happy with the velar. It’s definitely more luxury oriented


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Definitely something I can skip.