in my own experience, you have to work to breach 30k in an MX5, or WRX.

while you can easily break 30k in the MCS.

Well, I like my cars relatively spartan. Power lock, power windows, stereo and. . . I'm pretty much good. I'd hope one could get an MCS set up like that for not much.

yep :cool: less stuff to break and become out of date. With that siad I do admit bluetooth is pretty nice in my latest car

i agree with you.

but they cost so damn much (some options) from MINI/BMW that i never opt for them.

Under $25,000 for a configured MCS. And that's MSRP. Not sure what you could spend an extra $5000 on.

A lot, apparently.

I suspect strongly that most MCS vehicles drive away on average closer to 30k.

Well people are dumb. It still should be on the OP's list.

That comment alone won me over.

I agree.

did we rule out the v6 mustang or the v6 camaro?

those are not slow cars.

The main problem with the V6 Mustang and Camaro is the existence of the V8 Mustang and Camaro.