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Alan 04-16-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ff (Post 527753)
I toured the Ford F-150 and Ranger assembly plant in St. Paul, back in college. What always sticks in my head most is how the workers would hang from the doors, bouncing up and down until the door gaps were even [enough].

Maybe you could do something similar with your tailgate? :lol:

You just brought back a memory from like 20 yrs ago, I don't remember the make of the car but I do remember a car salesman literally hanging by the door jumping up and down on it to show me how well built the car was.

I knew one thing for sure I was not going to buy the car on the showroom floor that he did it to :lol:

Alan 04-16-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt (Post 527751)
I'm not too excited about scratching paint on sides of the truck with branches hanging over, but whatever. Why the hell would I buy a truck if I'm not going to use it?

This is the part I was thinking about when posting about scratching it ... yeah no doubt you should use it I just think I'm so accustomed to avoiding doing anything that scratches my car that I don't think my OCD could handle it.

zach 04-16-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt (Post 527706)
should I have gotten a full sized instead? :speechle:

Probably

rumatt 04-16-2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bren (Post 527773)
I'd probably go to the parts department and order a new cable, how much could that possible cost. Well, I'd ask the service guy to look at it first since it's under warranty.

Apparently it's not always the cable. It can be bed misalignment.

rumatt 04-16-2018 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zach (Post 527782)
Probably

:flipiff: :D

kognito 04-16-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bren (Post 527773)
Oh really? Good for GM.

I'd probably go to the parts department and order a new cable, how much could that possible cost. Well, I'd ask the service guy to look at it first since it's under warranty.

yeah, I think that started in 2014. The assist system also makes it much more difficult to steal a tailgate (at least on the 1/2 tons and up) not sure about Matt's truck, but I assume it is the same system

kognito 04-16-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt (Post 527706)
, I'm kinda wondering ... should I have gotten a full sized instead? :speechle:

:lol:

If I make it to JV's I will be driving my newish 1500. You will be more than welcome to take it out for a drive

3LOU5 04-16-2018 07:59 PM

I’ve had a Ranger and now a Silverado.

My full-size rides A LOT nicer. It hauls more, tows more, plows through deep snow better, camps better, etc. than my dinky Ranger.

The only thing my Ranger does better is pass by gas stations.

rumatt 04-16-2018 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kognito (Post 527808)
If I make it to JV's I will be driving my newish 1500. You will be more than welcome to take it out for a drive

I very much appreciate the offer... but this seems like a terrible idea. :lol:
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Originally Posted by 3LOU5 (Post 527838)
IMy full-size rides A LOT nicer. It hauls more, tows more, plows through deep snow better, camps better, etc. than my dinky Ranger.

Nanananana I can't hear you.

3LOU5 04-17-2018 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rumatt (Post 527845)
I very much appreciate the offer... but this seems like a terrible idea. :lol:

Nanananana I can't hear you.

[Jedi Mind Trick on] It's not a mid-size truck you're looking for [Jedi Mind Trick off]

:lol::lol::bustingup:bustingup

blee 04-17-2018 12:31 AM

I have a 2011 Silverado that I've owned since new, and I don't think I've had any of those issues. Well, okay, the rear bumper is not quite aligned correctly any more, but that's because it was replaced after I was hit and the body shop was a little lazy with fitting the replacement part. :dunno: I should probably fix it at some point.

I did have some odd issues two years ago, but after the dealer threw a bunch of crap at it, I think the true culprit was a $35 crank position sensor that I replaced myself. Almost seven years and 101,000 miles later, the only real problem I have is a finicky window switch panel. I think it just needs to be replaced; it'll intermittently fail to raise the rear windows, and today (after I did some tinkering with the door open during some rain) the auto-down feature on the driver's window stopped working.

Say what you will about trucks -- mine is proving to be an excellent purchase, and the only vehicle I've driven for 100,000 miles. Mine was even made in Mexico.

zach 04-17-2018 06:16 AM

One thing that amazes me about trucks (full size, at least) is how well they hold their value. My father in law gets a new Silverado every couple of years and trades in his old one for a surprisingly large amount of $.

John V 04-17-2018 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 3LOU5 (Post 527838)
I’ve had a Ranger and now a Silverado.

My full-size rides A LOT nicer. It hauls more, tows more, plows through deep snow better, camps better, etc. than my dinky Ranger.

The only thing my Ranger does better is pass by gas stations.

Yeah, but the Ranger was a really old platform and was never known for doing much of anything well.

I don't think any comparison between a Ranger and the current Colorado would be remotely reasonable.

rumatt 04-17-2018 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by zach (Post 527867)
One thing that amazes me about trucks (full size, at least) is how well they hold their value. My father in law gets a new Silverado every couple of years and trades in his old one for a surprisingly large amount of $.

Also interesting about cost of ownership... GM is more liberal with the incentives on the Silverado. Apparently the Colorado is selling well enough to not need as many.

So if you buy a Silverado with a big pile of incentives it can be close in price to a Colorado. Then 3 years later when you sell its worth more. So the Silverado cost of ownership can end up being equal to or better than a Colorado.

John V 04-17-2018 07:41 AM

I did the math on this several years ago... it's almost never worth it to buy a used full-size truck. The exception would be getting something that is fully depreciated (like, really old).

rumatt 04-17-2018 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by John V (Post 527870)
I did the math on this several years ago... it's almost never worth it to buy a used full-size truck. The exception would be getting something that is fully depreciated (like, really old).

It's crazy, right? The used market is set as if new trucks sell at MSRP. But they don't.

I started looking at used Colorado's, but there are a lot of complaints about the 2015-16's 6-speed transmission. They switched to a much better 8-speed tranny in 2017 so I decided I wanted 2017+.

And the used market for 1-year old Colorados wasn't compelling enough to steer me away from owning a new truck.

ff 04-17-2018 08:18 AM

Some SUVs are like that too. The 4Runner's resale was ridiculously good, even on trade-in.

John V 04-17-2018 08:46 AM

I ended up buying the Ram used, for three reasons

1) Friends with the prior owner, who got me a courtesy trade through the dealer where he was buying his replacement. So, it was well under market value and a known quantity
2) Chrysler still hadn't announced when the 1500 EcoDiesel was coming back to the market and I didn't want to wait
3) I wasn't willing to shell out $70k+ for a new diesel 3/4 ton truck.

In retrospect... while I really like the truck, financially it probably would have been smarter to buy a new F150 EcoBoost. But there are many things I just despise about the current generation of Ford trucks and I wanted to try a diesel. #noregerts

3LOU5 04-18-2018 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John V (Post 527868)
Yeah, but the Ranger was a really old platform and was never known for doing much of anything well.

I don't think any comparison between a Ranger and the current Colorado would be remotely reasonable.

Indeed, you're right.

Iirc, it had the ancient Twin I-Beam suspension. When I'd go over a bumpy road at a pretty good clip, that truck would bounce sideways. With a gutless 2.3L four banger, it really struggled to haul heavy loads.

I've thought about fixing up my current beater by installing a 4 to 6 inch lift kit, bigger wheels/tires, and a repaint. But in its current stock form, it guzzles gas pretty badly, and if I did those mods, it would gulp down fuel at an even more alarming rate.

I really don't use it enough to spend big money to make it look good....

equ 04-18-2018 09:21 PM

Don't have much truck needs, but I do like the ecodiesel engine... Let's see what kind of fix will come out, if any. I'm sure you could have found one used or certified. Even non-certified, mopar warranty is quite reasonable. The problem is you have to deal with FCA dealers.

rumatt 05-03-2018 03:42 PM

I parked the e46 next to the Colorado today and walking to my car(s) this afternoon I was stuck by how low and short the e46 is in comparison.
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Alan 05-03-2018 04:34 PM

Your car is still looking good :thumbup:

Please do me a favor and get some center caps for those wheels ... it is driving my OCD crazy !!

rumatt 05-03-2018 05:11 PM

:lol:

I just swapped them on yesterday and I was too lazy to swap the caps in yet. But I will soon!

SARAFIL 05-03-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AF (Post 529126)
Your car is still looking good :thumbup:



Please do me a favor and get some center caps for those wheels ... it is driving my OCD crazy !!



I couldn’t look beyond the half-eaten front bumper. 😁

rumatt 07-04-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt (Post 527752)
Oh that's interesting. I was first going to try reversing the cables, and hope maybe that the cable length variation aligns better with whatever amount the bed is likely out of square. :lol:

I finally got around to doing this. I swapped the tailgate cables, and sure enough it's better. The difference in cable length roughly matches the amount the bed is not square. Yippee. :lol:

It's not perfect, but if I sit on the side that is slack it tightens up. That's good enough for me. I just didn't want the tailgate to warp if I put something heavy on it.

rumatt 10-31-2018 01:58 PM

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I still love having a truck.

kognito 10-31-2018 05:17 PM

Did you try playing with the PSI in the tires? -3 PSI really made a big difference in ride quality in my 1/2 ton.


It still drives like a truck . . . but a much better behaved truck.

rumatt 10-31-2018 07:06 PM

I checked them and remembered thinking... Hmmm, that's not particularly high. But now I can't remember what it was.

34-35psi maybe?

3LOU5 10-31-2018 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt (Post 540749)
I checked them and remembered thinking... Hmmm, that's not particularly high. But now I can't remember what it was.

34-35psi maybe?

I used to run with 45 in the fronts and 40 in the back, both 5 psi above the recommended on the door jamb, to improve fuel economy.

I noticed that the tread wasn't wearing evenly, so I lowered them back to 40 in the fronts and 35 in the back.

5 psi DOES make a difference in ride quality.

3LOU5 10-31-2018 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rumatt (Post 540722)
I still love having a truck.

If you're a homeowner with a big yard, a truck is a "must-have" vehicle in the stable.

John V 11-01-2018 07:43 AM

I really should try lowering the tire pressures in the Ram. They are 65psi front / 80psi rear from towing, and the ride is pretty jiggly (Bilsteins notwithstanding).

kognito 11-01-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by John V (Post 540761)
I really should try lowering the tire pressures in the Ram. They are 65psi front / 80psi rear from towing, and the ride is pretty jiggly (Bilsteins notwithstanding).

Yeah, that must be a harsh ride when not towing.

The years we spent traveling (and towing) full time in our RV's taught me so much about tire pressures. I only use the data on the door jam as reference. You really need to know the pressure/weight range info from the tire manufacture. (and have a good idea/ or weigh your axle weights)

John V 11-01-2018 09:09 AM

It's really not harsh at all, but it could certainly be better.


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