Saw a GTO for the first time in many months.
 

damn, what a flop.

'feel the same exact way about the z4.

'cept i think the GTO is going to grow because it is a cheap corvette and car guys know it's easy to put in corvette OHV engine parts and get a sleeper.

lots of lemmings and poseurs are likely wishing they got the 911-lite/boxster 'sted of the z4.

Saw one the other day for the first time. Just when you thought GM couldn't make a car look any more boring. This thing is worse than the latest Lumina.

It's as plain as they come. In fact I have not seen one, but maybe I did, just didn't notice it.

Very true. I have seen a couple of them and (at first) I thought they were a Grand Prix or the like. Granted, it's not the most exciting car, but.... You buy it for what's under the hood.

It seems like a GREAT car to buy used after a couple of years for pennies on the dollar and turn into a monster. But I'm not into that.

funny this thread should arise.

just saw one in the garage this morning at work.

the lingenfelter GTO does the dance in 4.3 seconds. any BMWs sold today, M or otherwise do that? i forget. i think the Z8 was close. maybe the CSL?

CSL does the 60 in about 4.8 BMW published, 4.6 tested by mags.

Comparing a Lingenfelter GTO to a factory BMW is not exactly fair. I think a fair comparison would be the Lingenfelter to the Hartge M3 with the massive M5 motor, which hits 60 in about 4.4.

no, no, no.

of course, it isn't a fair comparison! i know, HACK. it actually is a reverse compliment to BMW that its OEM vehicles are that fast.

but i was wondering because the GTO is pretty easy to tune since it's just buckets and pushrods. a lot harder to come by those sorts of power gains on any BMWs. the LPE GTO is basically an australian version of a 6 series and while the 6 series looks less odd more and more, i'd still take the GTO because of the corvette engine. more fun.