I want a Jeep Gladiator.
 

It makes no sense.

But it’s a vehicle I don’t want to want.

But the JL Wrangler is so good, the Gladiator appeals to me even more.

Huh, it's like the last vehicle I'd want. Horses for courses... But I expect they'll be very successful.

i like it.

I've been staring at it trying to figure out why I would want one.

And why I wanted one a year ago before they were ready.

I'm coming up empty.

What do you use the Wrangler for that it is good at?

There's part of me that's interested in a JL, but I don't actually have any pickup needs that would be met by the small bed on the back. Looks like a good way to get your cargo wet and stolen.

If you want to go offroad it's not the best vehicle.

If you want a truck to use the bed it's not the best vehicle

If you want comfortable road driving it's not the best vehicle

If you want all three??? I am still not convinced it's the right vehicle.

I'm watching some TFL Truck youtube videos on the gladiator and laughing at the comments :lol:

OK I'm done. :lol:

Looks super long in person

:eeps:

:D

Put me in the camp of the Gladiator being near the bottom of my "I want one of these" list. What's the definition of a "Jack of all trades?" The Wrangler is pretty much the opposite of that. Not really good at anything you'd ever ask it to do. Clunky on-road, not quiet, not efficient, not spacious, not luxurious and lacking in utility as a truck.

Awesome.

edit: Then I ran across the Edmunds "True cost to own" list (this one from 2012) on another forum. It's like a listing of the cars I'd least like to own and drive. :lol:

True Cost to Own
2012 Nissan Leaf $19,732
2013 Fiat 500e $20,807
2014 Chevy Spark EV $21,086
2012 Scion iQ $21,713
2012 Mazda 2 $22,013
2012 Mitsubishi Mirage $22,185
2012 Honda Insight $22,368
2012 Honda Civic Hybrid $22,433
2012 Hyundai Accent hatchback $22,729
2012 Toyota Yaris 5 spd $23,298
2012 Chevy Volt $23,707
2012 Honda CRZ Base 5 spd $23,790
2012 Toyota Prius Plug-in $24,066
2012 Honda Fit $24,475
2012 Toyota Corolla $24,549
2014 Smart FourTwo Electric $24,611
2012 Toyota Prius $25,373
2013 Ford Fusion Energi $27,712
2012 VW Jetta Diesel $28,524

Exactly! :lol:

Edit: Just looked at the Gladiator. I totally want one.

I wanted a Colorado too. But I think I prefer the Gladiator.

The JL does everything I’ve ever needed in a utility vehicle.

But I never get to drive it. So instead of getting two JLs, I might try a Gladiator. Just for fun.

I'm just curious what you use it for that it excels at?

The pick up trucks Jeep used to sell make much more sense, but they didn't sell very many.

It was a 2 door, with a real world sized bed.

This 4 door spongebob square "truck" makes little sense, so it will probably sell

Hauling three dogs.

Hauling brush and wood. Lots of mulch and soil. Tons of plants.

When the rear seats are folded down not as much space as JK but it’s still cavernous.

Oops.

"2018 Jeep Wrangler scores 1 star in European crash tests"

http://forums.carmudgeons.com/showth...676#post542676

Good God.

Safety is never even something I look at on any vehicle.

You’re talking to someone who commuted in Boston year round in a mid 80s Carrera.

Has Jeep ever made a "safe" vehicle???

This test relies heavily on automated systems, at first glance.

I’ll just keep my mouth shut about this.

It is comical.

I think that ship has sailed? :kekeke:

I don't know anything about the star ratings. Are they bogus?

Based on a quick glance at the video, the cabin remains largely intact in all cases. I didn't see any body parts hit hard surfaces either, except maybe the rear passenger's head on the C-pillar in the T-bone test.

I'd eyeball it as pretty good, but who knows what they are looking at.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timei...t%3fsource=dam

“Lacking things like autonomous braking and lane departure control”

I’ll take my Pumpkin Spice Latte with 2%, my yoga Capri pants in white, and my Volvo in blue, please.

My nieghbor's kid had an incident in his 2000(?) XJ on Christmas Eve. Story I heard was a truck turned left in front of him. Not sure of the extent of his injuries, but he was home that night and not getting further medical attention until Wednesday morning. He hit his head and has significant shoulder, back and leg pain. Standing and walking are not his thing at the moment.

OMG. That looks horrible. I hope he recovers well. A reminder to care about vehicle safety...

Poor kid, that is terrible ... hopefully he recovers well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQuLBKdTttk

Positive review.

I'm still feeling no love.

I think it is going to sell well.

I doubt there will be one in my driveway. I have a hard time getting in and out of the current 4 door jeep (long legs) I'm sure this will be just as bad

Waiting to see how the diesel works out in this application.

It’s wickedly long which could be challenging. Or not.

Launch Edition sells out in 1 day :eek:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/2020-jeep...195000815.html

Ford Bronco Pickup Allegedly Coming To Take On Jeep Gladiator.
https://www.motor1.com/news/359957/f...ent-rumor/amp/

Interesting. But why do I not really trust Fords?

This article was linked in your post. This version looks interesting. (Wife doesn't like the skid plates)

15 years ago, I was a big Ford fanboy. I made a lot of money owning both their debt and stock. Their decision to stop selling all cars in America, except for the Mustang I feel will end up being a huge mistake for them.

The Focus in our garage, which was bought to be towed behind our RV, will probably be my last Ford product for a long long time.

(But if the Bronco ends up looking anything like the article I linked above, I might have to take a closer look)

Automobile: Kia Pickup Truck Coming to Slot Under Ford Ranger, Jeep Gladiator.
https://www.automobilemag.com/news/k...ons-executive/

Whoa.

Wonder when Subaru will bring back the Baja...

There is a company in Denver that imports Holden Ute's, and converts them to left hand drive.

If I have to drive a funny looking small pickup, it might as well have a V8 in it

When I was last in Australia, I saw several left hand drive Suburbans/Tahoe’s,,, I guess a Ute getting the same treatment makes sense,,,