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equ 04-06-2018 10:52 AM

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...sport-4s-test/

The above is a great review (though not enough comparison with the PSS).

To be fair, front-engined cars (or even rear-engined in my crazy view) are less sensitive to tires than mid-engined. When a boxster or cayman goes, there is very little warning. What is a pleasant little drifto in a RWD bmw can easily become a scary or embarassing twirl in a torquey 987/981.

equ 04-06-2018 10:54 AM

Also a good review:

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/mi...t-super-sport/

They say there are PS4 (Europe-only) and PS4S. I'd make sure.

ff 04-06-2018 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JST (Post 526957)
I mean the PSS is pretty old now, in tire terms--the set on my Boxster is from 2012 (which, jesus, means I probably need new tires, even though they've only got about 7500 miles on them).

Tire tech moves pretty quickly, so I guess it's not shocking there's something bigger and better now.

Time really flies. That's the year that I'd replaced the tires on the S2000 with PSSes. Just doesn't seem like that long ago, in my memory.

I recall the PSS being very good in the wet. But softer handling all around than the RE-050 tires that I replaced.

Nick M3 04-06-2018 11:22 AM

I can't see why you'd get the PSS instead of the PS4S.

The only question is whether you decide less grip is more fun. I'm actually really enjoying the PS A/S3+ on my E36, which has just the right amount of grip.

FC 04-06-2018 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zach (Post 526963)
Yeah, the PS2s aren't good in the cold, though I will say it makes sliding the rear out very easy (wife not a fan).

Damn! How old are those tires?!

zach 04-06-2018 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC (Post 526974)
Damn! How old are those tires?!

I'm trying to figure it out - when were PS2s phased out? regardless, they are old!

Nick M3 04-06-2018 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zach (Post 526975)
I'm trying to figure it out - when were PS2s phased out? regardless, they are old!

They should have a date code on them. Four digits - first two are the week, second two are the year, so 0208 would be from January 2008 for example.

ff 04-06-2018 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick M3 (Post 526973)
I can't see why you'd get the PSS instead of the PS4S.

The PSS is about $40 cheaper per tire, so there's that. For people that don't regularly push their tires to the limits (group that zach may not fall into?)...

Nick M3 04-06-2018 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff (Post 526981)
The PSS is about $40 cheaper per tire, so there's that. For people that don't regularly push their tires to the limits (group that zach may not fall into?)...

PSS will be older, and these are tires that don’t age well.

If he wants a cheaper tire that lasts longer, my alternate recommendation comes in to play.

Jeff_DML 04-06-2018 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick M3 (Post 526973)
I can't see why you'd get the PSS instead of the PS4S.

The only question is whether you decide less grip is more fun. I'm actually really enjoying the PS A/S3+ on my E36, which has just the right amount of grip.

Neither of those tires come in stock 996 turbo wheel sizes:irate:


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