JST - did the SS feel sort of slow? Presumably the torque feels great, but 500hp is the new 400hp.

At some point though on most public roads what is fast enough. I can’t believe I just said that but it’s true. Your won’t be canyon carving in a huge 4 door so at some point there just numbers. I rarely get to use my “underpowered” 400hp sedan as it is. Sure on ramp blasts or a 3rd gear high rev blast to change lanes on the freeway but still.

Same reason I’m ok going to a 315hp 981 BS. Fast enough given the weight but I am also looking for a very good handeling convertible manual trans car.

I am getting old but the hp numbers game and 0-60 before I can blink is just getting silly.

Yeah you are right - my HP comment is absurd in retrospect. What I really want is a 911 -- I just worry it won't get used if its inconvenient to take the family with me.

Fixed

I’ll go TD and JST one better. No Stick AND No SOUND No sale. Period.

I don’t care how fast they are.

Btw I agree with the M3 suggestions.

You realize they both drive Tesla's right? :lol:

The silent thrust is the best part!!!!!

Have you driven one?

I know!! But to there defense also own multiple cars. I on the other hand only drive one so I stand by that statement.

Well, it's a normally aspirated engine, and despite being a pushrod the LS V8s breathe pretty well and like a few revs to make power. I don't think it would feel particularly torquey next to a forced induction V8 or V6. But normal aspiration has its own rewards in terms of throttle response.

The others are right, though--next to the Model 3 or Model S, every internal combustion engine feels like its both gutless and expending way too much effort to accelerate.

This is too funny....

The most 'fun' I have ever had was in a car with 120HP.

Even my 997 isn't more 'fun' than my old 2002.

But that's just me.