Panamera?
 

I’ll preface this by saying I don’t really want a different car; I don’t love the current associations with the Tesla but it works fine and is (so far) very cheap to run.

But I’ve been idly thinking about what I’d get if I had to replace it. So, 4 door trip car but also for commuting in suburban DC.

Has anyone looked seriously at used Panameras? It’s weird how it seems to fit the bill for what a lot of ppl on this board want yet I don’t think anyone’s ever seriously talked about buying one. Is there a deal breaker reason for that?

For me, three primary reasons:

1. Cost new
2. No MT
3. Size/cost to run

But they certainly look a lot better and apparently drive very well.

Used, 1 may be less of an issue. Soon enough 2 won't be a consideration. That leaves, for me, the size and cost to use as a longish distance commuter. But I would not rule it out as an option when the time comes to consider upgrading from the GTI.

Old ones are ugly, new ones are a lot of money. If I had a lot more extra money, I'd probably pick up the touring version.

Yep, same thought as Nick. I like the new ones quite a bit.

Also because you have to cross shop the SUV category when you get to a car that size. And then the SUVs hold a lot more and tow.

Yes — I want one. Let’s talk about ‘em.

I was honestly a little surprised you got the Macan over one.

Had this same thought the other day and looked at what CPO Panamera wagons are going for the days. Looks like they start in the mid 70s for a 2018 w/ 43k miles: https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/...reowned-3O3N48

IF youre willing to consider a sedan (gen 2), looks like you could get a 2018 for around 50k:
https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/...reowned-NWLEDV

(I did a nationwide search by manually changing the URL in their CPO finder to make the search radius 3000 miles).

Since the factory warranty would've expired on a 2018, you'd only be getting 2 years of CPO warranty coverage.

Personally, I'd really want the wagon version and I'm not sure if I want to spend 75k+ for a car w/ only 2 years of warranty remaining. I'd also probably want to avoid the 3.0 v6 if possible (I think they have issues) which would further drive up the price. By the time you factor in the overall ownership costs, I think it likely doesn't pencil out well compared to any number of midsize SUVs. You really have to want one and be willing to pay the price. Hopefully the usual steep luxury car depreciation will catch up to these things soon. There's also the Audi S5/RS5 which offer the same 6 cyl engines, similar space, and a hatchback for less money (granted they use ZF 8 speed autos instead of dual clutches).

My dad actually has a 2019 panamera sedan, so I'm sort of familiar with it. Other downsides:
-Backseat and trunk is smaller than you'd expect given the size of the car
-Annoying center air vents (have to use screen to control direction)
-Limited interior storage (again considering the size)
-No dedicated track forward/back on the steering wheel. You have to use the programmable star button to atleast get you track forward. Just seems ridiculous consdering my 2001 e46 managed to have this. This applies to all Porsches though.
-Like any Porsche, the servicing is expensive which could get annoying in a daily driver.
(I will say that he loves it...he had a string of BMWs prior to this).

On a somewhat related note, I found this CPO Taycan CT while I was browsing around. Best price I"ve seen on one of these yet (93K): https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/...reowned-3OWO4Z

The old ugly ones don't exist to me. They never even happened.

The father of my son's classmate who lives 3 houses down has one. I think it's a 4 he got new 2 year s ago. Boring color of course, but it looks nice.

And yes, the Touring is bad ass. I'd want that.

I'm mostly with Nick. The early ones are too ugly to consider. The later ones are too expensive to consider. But I'd rather drive either of them than an SUV.