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clyde 06-09-2019 09:24 PM

0W-16. Really?
 
The 2019 Rav4 Hybrid calls for 0W-16 oil. Learn something new every day. Why do I think this is not going to be as easy to find as regular ranges?

In other news, in two months and a day, 5,700 miles.

lip277 06-10-2019 01:40 AM

Yeah - now that you mention it, I saw that oil in the store the other day... I did a double take when I read the weight.

Then quickly forgot about it as my E9 (and previous 2002) use 15W-50 Mob 1 and most of the cars I have now... 5W-40 Mob 1 (Delvac 1 - TDT).

Odd weight. Hope the engines last with that light stuff....

ff 06-10-2019 06:49 AM

16? That's oddly specific. And I had no idea it even existed.

clyde 06-10-2019 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lip277 (Post 549213)
Yeah - now that you mention it, I saw that oil in the store the other day... I did a double take when I read the weight.

Then quickly forgot about it as my E9 (and previous 2002) use 15W-50 Mob 1 and most of the cars I have now... 5W-40 Mob 1 (Delvac 1 - TDT).

Odd weight. Hope the engines last with that light stuff....

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Originally Posted by ff (Post 549216)
16? That's oddly specific. And I had no idea it even existed.

The Mobil 1 formulation is branded as "Advanced Fuel Economy" and says this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobil
Mobil™ 0W-16 oils address emerging technology as vehicle manufacturers strive to optimize fuel economy. Honda and Toyota recommend 0W-16 oils for select gasoline and hybrid engines.

We offer Mobil 1™ 0W-16 Advanced Fuel Economy motor oil, an ultra-low viscosity, advanced full synthetic formulation that was developed to help improve engine efficiency and provide outstanding wear protection.

The Rav4 Hybrid's owner's manual specs a 10k mile oil change interval for normal use. It says that 0w-20 can be substituted, but if you do, the following change must happen within 5k miles and must use 0w-16.

Searching auto parts stores for who has 0w-16 in stock is a frustrating exercise.

ff 06-10-2019 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 549222)
Searching auto parts stores for who has 0w-16 in stock is a frustrating exercise.

I remember a similar experience when Honda first started using 5W-20 a good number of years ago. The first oil change at that weight, I had to buy quarts from the dealership parts department. And even they didn't have much on hand. It didn't take long after that for stores to start carrying the new weight in the same quantities as 5W-30, though.

kognito 06-10-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 549222)
Searching auto parts stores for who has 0w-16 in stock is a frustrating exercise.

Wouldn't the store you prefer order it for you?

Way too many stores in my area, but there is an Advanced store where the folks are nice, and I get a bonus cash back on my card from Advanced . . . anytime they don't have what I want in stock, they get it in a day or two for me.

equ 06-10-2019 08:38 AM

Also, in other news, C&D says the Hybrid is the RAV4 to have.

clyde 06-10-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kognito (Post 549225)
Wouldn't the store you prefer order it for you?

Way too many stores in my area, but there is an Advanced store where the folks are nice, and I get a bonus cash back on my card from Advanced . . . anytime they don't have what I want in stock, they get it in a day or two for me.

You mean talk to people? What are you, like, from 1980?

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Originally Posted by equ (Post 549227)
Also, in other news, C&D says the Hybrid is the RAV4 to have.

I should do a review post, but I haven't gotten to the 1 year with the Camaro post yet.

Short version is that it doesn't suck.

Josh (PA) 06-10-2019 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 549222)

Searching auto parts stores for who has 0w-16 in stock is a frustrating exercise.


I am learning more and more to just start and end at Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Toyota-Genuin...gateway&sr=8-3

I keep trying to go to Home Depot and box stores to buy things only to drive myself crazy with their lack of inventory. I go home and jump on Amazon and have what i need at most 2 days later.

John V 06-10-2019 09:31 AM

I just did a search on Advance Auto Parts website and they stock 0w16 at the Ellicott City location (I didn't look elsewhere).

I've started ordering stuff at Advance online because they almost always have a 20% off coupon which is valid online only. I then just pick everything up on my way home from work. Super convenient. No hunting around the store, just walk in, pick up your order and walk out.

In general their pricing undercuts Amazon's significantly.

equ 06-10-2019 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by John V (Post 549235)
I just did a search on Advance Auto Parts website and they stock 0w16 at the Ellicott City location (I didn't look elsewhere).

I've started ordering stuff at Advance online because they almost always have a 20% off coupon which is valid online only. I then just pick everything up on my way home from work. Super convenient. No hunting around the store, just walk in, pick up your order and walk out.

In general their pricing undercuts Amazon's significantly.

It's a pain for me to drive to Advance Auto but that's where I got my 535i battery (with the 20% off coupon).

Nick M3 06-10-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by equ (Post 549236)
It's a pain for me to drive to Advance Auto but that's where I got my 535i battery (with the 20% off coupon).

I prefer Interstate batteries from Costco. No coupon, but they are very affordable.

clyde 06-10-2019 11:11 AM

Advance is closest auto parts store to me (unless the NAPA in the complete opposite direction is a few tenths of a mile closer), but it's tiny and they have stock issues. It's also halfway to another Advance and Autozone in a single shopping center.

They have Carquest brand 0W-16. I don't know if brands matter these days. The online order coupon can't be used on it. W/o the coupon, it's a little cheaper than the Toyota branded oil at Amazon Josh linked to (and I already ordered)

John V 06-10-2019 11:46 AM

That's weird that the code can't be used with that oil. I've never seen that before with any product, except things that have already been discounted.

As far as brand, it wouldn't worry me at all for a daily driver. Mostly, oil is oil. For street cars, stuff that isn't used hard, it really doesn't matter at all. The exceptions are for engines that have really strict engine oil needs, like BMW's "grenade with the pin pulled" M-car engines.

equ 06-10-2019 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick M3 (Post 549240)
I prefer Interstate batteries from Costco. No coupon, but they are very affordable.

I went with Autocraft Platinum AGM, I think based on Consumer Reports, but I can't remember now. I probably spent more than necessary on a commodity going on a car that's on sale.

wdc330i 06-10-2019 08:21 PM

That is weird. My 2 takes 0/20.

John V 06-11-2019 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick M3 (Post 549240)
I prefer Interstate batteries from Costco. No coupon, but they are very affordable.

Yeah, but you have to be a Costco member.


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