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FC 12-19-2020 01:26 PM

718 4.0L engine will be around for a few years
 
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/por...nd-until-2026/

So says the piece above. I imagine the car may well get refreshed or redone into another gen, but I love the idea of the engine sticking around. Either because it may be long enough to convince me to do something stupid, or at least because there may be enough sales to keep resale reasonable to be able to afford a used one.

robg 01-05-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FC (Post 567497)
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/por...nd-until-2026/

So says the piece above. I imagine the car may well get refreshed or redone into another gen, but I love the idea of the engine sticking around. Either because it may be long enough to convince me to do something stupid, or at least because there may be enough sales to keep resale reasonable to be able to afford a used one.

Probably won't happen - but it would be cool if Porsche used this engine in the next generation of "Carrera T". They've already spent the development costs, so why not use this engine in a 911 variant as well.

FC 01-05-2021 11:54 AM

At this point, I'm almost coming to terms with the idea that the next gen Boxster will be some hybrid, non-MT car. I still hope that the next gen GTS or Spyder versions will exist in H6 NA+MT variants, but if they don't, as long as at least there is a 911 (T or similar) version, I may have to consider it.

lemming 01-17-2021 04:14 PM

I have a question, please.

What is really the functional difference between the 718 GTS and the 718 GT4?

It’s the same engine. I don’t really understand the other differences.

equ 01-17-2021 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lemming (Post 568382)
I have a question, please.

What is really the functional difference between the 718 GTS and the 718 GT4?

It’s the same engine. I don’t really understand the other differences.

I haven't looked at the 718 that much... So I'm sure I could search as you could. However, as a real-world though short time owner of a 981 GT4, here are a few things that jump out:
- GT4 comes with PSC2 tires not PSS or PS4 street tires
- GT4 tire sizes are 245/295 not 235/265. While this means more grip, it's more planted in the rear
- GT4 comes with GT3 suspension bits. Again, less playful, more planted in the rear

Arguably, the boxsters and caymans I've owned and driven other than the gt4 are noticeably weaker than a 911 on power application, apex onward. You have to be far more careful applying, whereas you can get on earlier and harder on the 911. The GT4, while not rear-engined, corrects this a good amount by going from the simpler rear suspension to a 911-like rear suspension as well as widening the rears. To me, on the street, that's not more fun, but I'm sure it'll post better lap times. Also, even storing MPSC2 is a hassle as they cannot be in winter temperatures, let alone be driven in them. They are also inferior to the MPSS, MPS4 in the rain.

lemming 01-17-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by equ (Post 568385)
I haven't looked at the 718 that much... So I'm sure I could search as you could. However, as a real-world though short time owner of a 981 GT4, here are a few things that jump out:
- GT4 comes with PSC2 tires not PSS or PS4 street tires
- GT4 tire sizes are 245/295 not 235/265. While this means more grip, it's more planted in the rear
- GT4 comes with GT3 suspension bits. Again, less playful, more planted in the rear

Arguably, the boxsters and caymans I've owned and driven other than the gt4 are noticeably weaker than a 911 on power application, apex onward. You have to be far more careful applying, whereas you can get on earlier and harder on the 911. The GT4, while not rear-engined, corrects this a good amount by going from the simpler rear suspension to a 911-like rear suspension as well as widening the rears. To me, on the street, that's not more fun, but I'm sure it'll post better lap times. Also, even storing MPSC2 is a hassle as they cannot be in winter temperatures, let alone be driven in them. They are also inferior to the MPSS, MPS4 in the rain.

that's great input. thank you. i'll keep that in mind when i'm poking around in the cars tomorrow.

lemming 01-25-2021 10:05 PM

Uh huh.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...er-155032.html

JST 01-25-2021 10:08 PM

Good article but I lol’d at “piece of resistance.”

equ 01-25-2021 10:33 PM

The higher variant will only be truly different if it gets the gt3 based engine. What is this story about porsche starting from the 991.2 engine, bored & stroked 3.0 -> 4L and took the turbos out? How is that different from starting from the 991.1S engine, bore & stroke mildly, 3.8 -> 4L?

lemming 01-26-2021 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by equ (Post 568797)
The higher variant will only be truly different if it gets the gt3 based engine. What is this story about porsche starting from the 991.2 engine, bored & stroked 3.0 -> 4L and took the turbos out? How is that different from starting from the 991.1S engine, bore & stroke mildly, 3.8 -> 4L?

I agree with you. But GT4 RS will still be meaningful by performance metrics —just not from a true Motorsport derived engine lineage.

Kudos to Porsche for making this engine.

They must be selling tons of Macan’s to pay for this frippery.


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