Originally Posted by FC (Post 556673)

LR4 is 6.5yo and I’d be pissed if we don’t keep it for 10+ years. I hope to keep the M3 that long. I doubt any newer MT sedan will come out to lure me into replacing it.

I wish I could buy a 718 GTS. I mire I could hold it for 10+ years easily. If I had the room and money, I would have held my old 987S as well.

Originally Posted by robg (Post 556716)

I have a feeling you'll end up with a 718 GTS eventually.

Out of curiousity, what would you buy today if you didn't have the LR4? Closest thing I can think of (boxy SUV w/ 3 rows thats not too long) is probably the Lexus GX. Doesnt look as cool as the LR4 to be sure.

Originally Posted by FC (Post 556717)

The GX is a pretty good alternative. But I don't fool myself or others into justifying the LR4 for it's off-road prowess. For me it was the physical packaging and Swiss army-like versatility in cargo and people that won me over.

If I had a garage that could fit any SUV, I'd consider a few others along with GX. I still like the Mercedes SUVs but like all the Germans they are very expensive. For a good deal, I'd consider an Acadia/Traverse/Enclave version. I'd really have to test drive a bunch. It has been over 7 years since I spent time looking at SUVs in that category.

Originally Posted by FC (Post 556717)

The GX is a pretty good alternative. But I don't fool myself or others into justifying the LR4 for it's off-road prowess. For me it was the physical packaging and Swiss army-like versatility in cargo and people that won me over.

If I had a garage that could fit any SUV, I'd consider a few others along with GX. I still like the Mercedes SUVs but like all the Germans they are very expensive. For a good deal, I'd consider an Acadia/Traverse/Enclave version. I'd really have to test drive a bunch. It has been over 7 years since I spent time looking at SUVs in that category.

Originally Posted by robg (Post 556662)

Yeah a Hyundai/Kia product probably makes a lot of sense. Dont they still have 10 year warranties as well?

Originally Posted by FC (Post 556717)

The GX is a pretty good alternative. But I don't fool myself or others into justifying the LR4 for it's off-road prowess. For me it was the physical packaging and Swiss army-like versatility in cargo and people that won me over.

If I had a garage that could fit any SUV, I'd consider a few others along with GX. I still like the Mercedes SUVs but like all the Germans they are very expensive. For a good deal, I'd consider an Acadia/Traverse/Enclave version. I'd really have to test drive a bunch. It has been over 7 years since I spent time looking at SUVs in that category.

Originally Posted by robg (Post 556655)

Inspired by seeing a GS350 parked on the street this morning. I used to find the current gen completely fugly. But, maybe due to some of similarities between it and the latest 3 series (which i've now grown used to due to the sheer volume), I thought "hmm not too bad". It was a white F-sport version with grey wheels.

As a thought experiment, it got me thinking about what car I could buy and keep for 10+ years without too much worry and at a reasonable cost. That's how my parents always did it, but whenever i've run the math on a car i'd want it doesn't look very favorable vs a lease. I also understand buying/holding a classic car (like an air cooled 911 or something), but for this i'm thinking more of an everyday/daily driver type car.

Anyway, the criteria would be:
-have to be something with some practicality
-have good durability reliability
-be decent to drive and look at.
-be comfortable and have some creature comforts
-Have an average monthly ownership cost (taking into account depreciation/maintenance/repairs/cost of money) of no more than $300/month.

I say that because above that amount I think it probably just makes sense to just do serial bmw leases or something. Despite having good resale value, a new GS350 probably wouldn't cut it. Let's say a 10 year old one is worth around 10k. With 40k in depreciation, you're already at 333/month before the other costs. So maybe the best/lowest miles used IS or GS you can find for high 20s? And right out of the gate, they annoy w/ horrid infotainment and no folding rear seats. Camry V6 then? Or slightly used GTI for low 20s? Would almost certainly incur higher maintenance/repair costs though but less so than other european cars due to sheer ubiquity. What's the sweet spot (if any)?

Originally Posted by 3LOU5 (Post 556788)

My coworker had an Acadia and had nothing but problems with it.

She couldn't get rid of it fast enough, lol.