WWYD?
I know what I'm going to do, but what would you do?
Used car is listed on a dealer website with 36,792 miles. All the Carvana/Autotrader sites list it with the same 36,792 figure. Most recent Carfax report entry shows the car being offered for sale by that dealer with 36,792 miles. Dealer sends you photos showing 26,793 miles on odometer. |
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The question is, are there entries in the history of the car above 27k miles? |
I'd probably be an honest shmo and mention it. You'd think they'd have some controls built into their processes to prevent that from going all the way through to the sale anyway.
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I'm not sure what clyde is asking, exactly--is the question "does the dealer think the car has 10K more miles than it does and the price is therefore too low, and should I mention it?" I would think that the pain in the ass of having an inaccurate Carfax will be worth a lot more than whatever discount you get. I would note to them that as part of the transaction you want them to make sure that the Carfax is corrected. If they come back and say "we need to charge more for the car," I'd remind them of what the advertised price is and try and get them to honor it. Unless it was a really unique car, if they were a pain in the ass about any of that I'd walk, because who has the time for this shit. |
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A used Camaro listed at a dealer yesterday that looked potentially promising. The odometer issue came up during a couple emails last night. A photo they sent me last night to show me something I asked about also happened to show 26,793 miles on the odometer. Everything I'd seen to that point suggested 36k miles (website, ads, Carfax). Again, I'm pretty sure the 36k was a typo, but assuming the mistake happened on the odometer declaration and/or title transfer and makes its way to everything else...how does that get fixed? Can it get fixed? When I realized what was going on, this scenario played out in my head over the next second and a half:
Even if the mileage issue wasn't there, I knew I didn't want the car. No PDR, mileage over 18k, car sits 950 miles away, not a preferred color, and limo tint I'd need to remove. Any of those things are fine, maybe even a couple at the right price, but not all of them. The odometer issue seemed like an interesting mental exercise, so I was interested in the thoughts of others here. I also talked to a buddy this morning that worked at Carfax for a number of years managing dealer relationship to get his thoughts. Sounded like the dealer can fix the upfront part with Carfax pretty easily, but it would be a royal PITA for the consumer to do it. The bigger question is which mileage figure was recorded on the forms sent to the state. The info we have suggests it's all incorrect, but that's not necessarily so. If all the info the state has/gets is correct, then that part will be fine and if the dealer fixes the initial incorrect entry with Carfax, that will be fine, too. There should not be any future issues. If the wrong info went to the state, it gets a lot more complicated. The dealer may get the initial error fixed in Carfax, but since the state has the wrong info, that may work its way back into Carfax at a future date. That's in addition to potentially causing actual title issues, which, in turn, would also go into Carfax. Once that gets into Carfax, game over. If it was the right car otherwise, would it be worth the chance it's fixable? Would it be worth it at a significant discount? If so, how much would it take? Or is it just hard pass no matter what? My buddy's implied recommendation was to run away unless the dealer can show that everything with both the state and Carfax are correct. |
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This sounds very complicated so quick story ... the 2019 Cayman I bought had 1200 miles, the carfax showed 1500 miles one day after a 1200 mile entry, I asked the dealer how many miles are on the car and how did the car have 300 miles put on it in one day, they said the car only has 1200 miles, I went and saw the car and it indeed had 1200 miles ...
Bought the car, the carfax was corrected by the dealer within a few days and I had the new carfax showing the correct miles. I know there was no foul play, who cares about a car with that little miles having 1200 or 1500 either would have been fine with me ... So in other word carfax can be wrong |
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Pass. Branded carfax isn't worth it. No, it won't get fixed.
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10k error over a significant period of time in multiple states sings a different story. |
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The dealer should not have a problem getting that fixed (like you experienced). If Carfax is the only place where the mileage was recorded wrong and the dealer gets it fixed with Carfax, that's the end of the problem. If the mileage was recorded wrong in other places (specifically: what was sent to Florida DMV) the current Carfax entry is the least of the problems the buyer will probably encounter because what the state sees and gets attached to the car's paperwork will not match the car's actual mileage. That creates problems in itself. Plus, those differences will eventually come back to Carfax in the future and will not be fixable. Because the dealer's website and all of their advertising lists the same incorrect Carfax mileage, I believe it's highly probable that the same error exists in what info was sent to the state. Anyway, links: Car: https://www.dyerchevyftpierce.com/Ve...-FL/4589761103 Carfax: https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...o=%27carfax%27 Photo 22 of 24 shows the correct odometer reading. |
You passed right? There should be more cars on the market soon. If this recession lasts.
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If it was fat fingered, which looks like it was, would it also adversely effect CPO coverage?
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Curious to see how long it takes to sell. |
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