Together with the no-kids thing... It's hard to argue with doing the 987.2 now, M2 later.

I have some 987 wheels and tires I can sell you. :lol:

I have a 987.2 I can sell you :lol:

Seriously dude.... buy JV's boxster.

Yellow isn't my favorite color... but it's better than white. :bustingup

And my black wheels will look great on it. :speechle:


John: did you ever look into American Modern classic car insurance? It might drop your rates low enough that you don't mind keeping the car.

If you can swing yellow, this is actually a pretty good idea. Now which carmudgeon is going to drive it west?

We are all part rational, part emotional... Maybe JV loves the car $500/yr insurance, but doesn't at $1500/yr (I'm making up numbers). This is possible.

What is probable is that once you put something on sale, especially something that he knows well, loved at some point, etc, it means he's moving on. I'd be surprised if he could enjoy it anymore.

Ugh fuck! So sorry. I meant as the attached pic shows a 981 Boxster S.
The interior

I still really enjoy it. I just hardly use it. It is a silly car to commute in around here, and I get so few top-down days.

The really sad part is there's really nothing out there that interests me that much.

Anyway Theo is looking at a 981. I agree the interior of those cars is gorgeous. Hell the whole car is gorgeous!

:+1


...also, I owned a white 987S, so I approve.

The 981 exterior is a lot better to my eyes on the Boxster. I'm not sure it's such a leap on the Cayman. The 981 interior is a bit more comfy than the 987, but the 987 interior has simplicity going for it.

The 981 has much better brake feel and maybe somewhat better real world numbers as well. On the 987, I had occasional ABS going silly on bumpy heavy braking with loss of feel and increased distance ("ice"-like). The 987 brakes won't feel like that short of major things like changing the master cylinder. The 981 has the chassis edge, calmer and widened.

The 987 has two big things going for it. It's gearing is slightly lower (gears are same, tires are 1" less in diameter) and it's steering is livelier. Together they make the car as or more fun to drive. IMHO.

I don't regret my 981S, it's more like a super car and overall hard to beat. I was also looking for good value in 987.2's when I shopped for it. I also wanted to do something different. The boxster's looks improved a lot with the 981... But, if I were shopping today, especially for a cayman, I'd look hard to see if I could get a deal in the 2009 to 2012's. For a runabout, even the base would do. The 2.9 is torquier (but not quite as revvy) as the 2.7 that followed it. Combined with the lower gearing and excellent steering, it's great fun on the road.

The 981's brake/chassis strength comes out in the numbers. It matches the 997 GT3 in braking ft and in side g's. Hard to believe, but measured.

Could you find a 987 (.1, or .2 and/or s) cost effectively enough you could keep the m5 and have both?

I'd think if you only drove the m5 a couple thousand miles a year, it would appreciate from where it is now for you.

The 987 should hold its value quite well too. Last 'real steering', 'real engine' boxster. It would give you a 'vert for the nice days, and the m5 when you want more grunt or to take more than one other person somewhere.