The "What the f*** were they thinking?" BaT thread
 

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug?

How much do you think a 76-mile 1980 Ford F-250 is worth?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-ford-f-250-4/

That's a nice truck but...wow.

Doug DeMuro's theory that classic trucks and SUVs are going to skyrocket is turning out to be right.

:lol: That's so insane! I'd never buy that truck even for $1k other than to flip it since clearly people have lost their minds.

Speaking of "what they hell were they thinking," I give you...this.

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content...size=620%2C413

It's worth something, but $97k? I'd have paid a tenth of that and still be scared.

Oh, come on. This is a vehicle that literally tens of millions of people have huge nostalgia for. How many 78 mile examples are out there? Why wouldn't it go for $100k? How is that any more absurd than, say, $250k for an E30 M3?

It's interesting to me because the value is entirely in the fact that it's got basically no miles on it. That same truck (a low option 3/4 ton pickup from maybe the worst vehicular era ever) with 20,000 miles on it is worth what, ten grand? I just don't understand what motivates people.

That's true for a lot of these delivery mile cars that show up on BaT (and in other auctions). I mean, there's value in originality and completeness, but paying for something like this is weird because the value is entirely in the fact that you can't use it.

At the same time, it's not so different from the people that buy toys and never take them out of the box. It's a totally different mindset from what most people (even enthusiasts) have--it's all about collecting.

Even with all of that, I think it's remarkable that this is a $100K truck. Syclone? Sure. Delivery mile Lightning? OK, yeah, 100K, why not. But this one is wacky.

W T F ?!!!

:eek::ack:

That's a riot. A friend of mine had one of those--in a stick. Albeit with MANY more miles on it than that...

Looks like something classic Clarkson/Hammond/May Top Gear would have created.

Wonder what the back story is on this truck? I maybe could understand someone buying a sports car and purposely saving it with no miles, but how would a pickup truck ever have been preserved like this? Must be some very interesting or weird story behind it.

Not fair to post that without the matching tow vehicle

https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content...it=2048%2C1536

"Don't make me come back there!"

$52,000 for a 28k-Mile 1997 Ford F-250 HD SuperCab XLT Power Stroke 4×4

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-ford-f-250-36/

Haven’t f250s always gone for crazy money?


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That one doesn't surprise me too much (though $52k is still insane). People love the 7.3L trucks for some reason. If this were an Expedition with the 7.3, I'd expect the sale price to be even higher.

Maybe I'm not wired properly to appreciate this sort of thing, but maybe any vehicle gets expensive when it's one of the last of its kind for collectible purposes.

I just don't think it's attractive, it doesn't look cool, it doesn't drive well, and it doesn't sound good. And at those prices, it will never be used to tow, etc. So if it's going to be decorative, I don't think it's pretty enough for that.

Totally agree.

I agree with you.

But for people who like trucks (or more specifically someone willing to pay 50 or 100 large for what is basically just an old truck), they think the exact same thing about a Porsche 993.

The 7.3 Powerstroke, as much as I hate it, was the pinnacle of Ford diesels for a long time because the engines that succeeded it (6.0 and 6.4) were unreliable turds.

The 993 comparison is apt here, too, because the 996 (and to some degree the 997.1) was a letdown in comparison.

Maybe people should just be buying the engine and putting it in a decent looking body.

Or just buy the engine and display it. :D

I mean I suspect whoever bought that truck will use it some. It has enough miles on it that the owner could put another few thousand on it and not appreciably change the value. :dunno:

I get it. But my point is, that the 993 is liked because it is pretty, because it sounds a particularly (pleasant) way, or because it drives well. One can still sample all those things.

That Ford was a great work truck and that's about it. Nobody is going to put it to work.

When I started my first job out of college there were 3 guys in my group who had that truck. I've been in one on a trip to Maine to visit a vendor. I've been on it for dozens of short trips year round. I had to get out and "lock the hubs" in a winter storm. I have heard many guys talk about the awesomeness of the truck. And it was always about what a great, tough, powerful truck it was, nothing else.

I suppose that's possible, but I find it unlikely that they will use it in a "Built Ford Tough commercial" kind of way.

Do you, though? :)

That's how you view it. To someone who covets a low-mileage F250, they see the 993 as an old car that costs way too much for what it is, looks like an old VW Beetle, and is basically useless as a car. :dunno:

John's right. I've been through a few diesel trucks. Luckily I had no issues with two different Ford (International) 6.0 liter motors. Heck, large Ford dealer were required to buy special lifts for servicing/replacing 6.0 trucks

But the 7.3 is highly sought after.

OK. Sure. I just think it's a crazy premium for either a) a car that is going to sit to just be admired, or b) a truck you actually plan on using.

Now, as a collectible because it's a very rare, crazy-well-reserved sample of an iconic truck? Sure. Wrap it in a bubble, put it in a museum, etc.

Again, my opinion.

Nobody is disagreeing that it's a ridiculous price.

Says a Massachusetts resident looking for justification to expand the custom built detached garage he built to make it large enough of the snowblower for which he forgot to account.

We all live in glass houses here.

:lol:

You know I was joking about expanding that garage, right?:?

I'm not judging anyone's wish to spend their money as they see fit. I just don't get it, that's all.:dunno:

:?

:D

:lol: Sure, take them out of context!:mad2:

You are lucky, the seller has another one up for auction--and the price seems basically to have started where the other one left off:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-ford-f-250-37/

Oh, I like the red short cab one better.

Did you mean Excursion? I don't think the Expedition ever had that engine.

Kind of surprising that there hasn't been a revival of the Excursion. It was such a massive vehicle back then and cars have only gotten bigger. Maybe you'd need a CDL to drive a modern example. :lol:

Yeah, the Excursion diesel has quite a cult following in the horse trailer/car track day community. They were custom made for that market, though because that market isn't very big they didn't sell many.

The current Expedition Max is the replacement, but unlike the Excursion it's not built on the Super Duty frame and you can't get the diesel in it (weirdly, not even the smaller diesel they're putting in the F150).

Looks like Excursions topped out at 11,000 pounds towing capacity and Expedition Maxes are rated at 9300, but the experience (and fuel economy) with that gas turbo six is going to be very different from the big diesel. FWIW, the F350 can now tow up to 21,000 lbs without a 5th wheel.

I guess Ford's thought is that the F350 crew cab is so big now that who needs the extra cargo space? And if you do, just get a cap?

Yes Excursion.

I have a 2003 F-250 with the 6.0 PSD engine. While I do use the bed some - I have a canopy on it so, it is not so much a truck but a 'van'. And that's ok - I have a utility trailer for getting rock or dirt or 'stuff' for when I need to haul that kind of material. I also have two friends who each have dump trailers (large ones - :) ) that I borrow on occasion.

Back when I was needing to get something to tow my 28' car trailer - if I would have found a decent comparable Excursion - I would have gotten that. But - even back in the 2006/2007 time frame, the PSD powered Excursions were VERY pricey. Granted, they were still 'newish' back then - but Ford had already stopped making them and the guys that had them knew that they had value. I saw some with asking prices 50% above the PSD truck equivalent. So - being more or less practical, got the F250.

The prices of the Excursions have held or increased since then. Especially the creampuff ones.

FYI - The one thing I do wish is that I had gotten the crew cab (not the super cab like I did). It would be good to have real second row seats, but I favored the bit shorter wheelbase instead back then thinking that was the better choice. If I had to do it today - I would go with the short bed, crew cab.

MUCH better. Although it needs a new interior...

Yes. :ack:

I mean, it has more torque and better fuel economy that the 7.3l Excursion. Less torque than the 6.blow, though.

More horsepower than either one, and a lot more gears. I'm sure it will tow fine enough. Until the ecoboost blows up.

Can someone explain why Ford has so much difficulty making vehicles that work?