can I ask a related question?

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/200...e-carrera-4-s/

how does this happen? this is way too much money.

i thought BaT was more value-based buying?

wow, that is a lot of money. And I thought the turbo selling for $45k was pretty good

It's an auction site, so it all depends on who's watching the screen as the seconds tick down. You can get weird aberrations in any auction.

But, yeah--that's too much money for a fairly common 12 year old car with mileage that isn't that low. Maybe the bubble is starting to inflate under 996s, IMS and all?

EDIT:

"Being cautious, he flat-bedded the car to ROCS Auto for installation of the LN Engineering retro-fit kit; while there, the rear main seal, clutch, pressure plate and flywheel were also replaced. As it turned out, the seller said, the IMS bearing was fine. Photos taken by the shop while the work was being done are shown in the photo gallery. (Underbody views will be added once they are received.)"

Also. Is there any real evidence that the LN kit has a lower failure rate than the stock part? I get the theoretical reasons why it should work better, but I don't have a huge amount of faith that they've actually built a better mouse trap.

I watched this video and they said the Porsche bearing was sealed vs the new one is open so get lubed by engine oil

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dndanlFmcW8

And lemming there is another 4s on bat going for a much more reasonable 20k,see how much is it closes at

I understand the theory behind the LN bearing (to the extent that a liberal arts guy can). I just wonder how that theory works in practice. How much validation testing did they do?

Probably it works fine. Does it materially reduce the risk of the bearing failing? I guess? But the sample size of cars with failed bearings is already small (3-5 percent?). The number of cars that have had the LN bearing is even smaller.

All I'm really saying is that this whole thing is shrouded in hysteria and mixed motives. Porsche doesn't want you to know how big a problem there is. LN naturally benefits if you think the problem is enormous. no one, afaik, with an unbiased perspective has any visibility into the full scope of the problem.

In casually shopping used cars from the generations in question, I've seen many advertising engine replacements. Enough that I'm convinced the oe setup is scary.

As far as 4s pricing, I've also noticed that they command a significant premium.

When my orig IMS bearing came out, it was fine and the ball bearings were in great shape. But I figured this since my car was driven and had normal oil changes.

Now I just treat it like I do any German water pump: it's a wear item.

The pricing in the 20s makes more sense to me.

Yep, nice ;)

Hey, Clyde!!!

1 Owner, 968 w/m030, and LSD

http://www.unionvw.com/used/Porsche/...d4af92e8bc.htm

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