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clyde 11-13-2016 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JST (Post 490321)
Unless you routinely have to move 6 people, I can't really see the point of the X. It doesn't drive a lot worse than the S, but it is noticeably taller and heavier.

The panoramic windshield is kind of a cool effect, but it comes at the expense of a roof that opens.

But you can tow.

wdc330i 11-13-2016 09:23 PM

Seeing a lot of Xs in ATL. But then, I see a lot of Teslas in general here.

JST 11-19-2016 12:04 PM

Picked up the P85+.

It's in beautiful shape; essentially as new. Assuming all Tesla CPOs are set to this standard, it's a great way to go.

The suspension and tire changes make a *huge* difference in handling. Turn in is sharper, body roll is reduced, and the whole car feels both lighter and smaller (though it clearly isn't).

It's also a lot faster, mostly at lower speeds. Even with bigger, stickier tires, it struggles for traction and will easily light up the wheels if you aren't careful with the...uh...throttle.

AWD would address this, but it would also make the car feel less alive, which doesn't seem like a great trade.

Josh (PA) 11-19-2016 05:37 PM

Nice. Do you lose any range due to the sticky tires?

JST 11-19-2016 10:44 PM

Definitely yes, though it's hard to quantify how much so far. In other cars with these wheels that I've driven I'd guess it's between 5 and 10 percent.

ZBB 11-19-2016 10:49 PM

Congrats!

clyde 11-20-2016 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JST (Post 490679)
Definitely yes, though it's hard to quantify how much so far. In other cars with these wheels that I've driven I'd guess it's between 5 and 10 percent.

5-10%? That's...substantial.

JST 11-20-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 490697)
5-10%? That's...substantial.

Yes.

John V 11-20-2016 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JST (Post 490660)
Picked up the P85+.

It's in beautiful shape; essentially as new. Assuming all Tesla CPOs are set to this standard, it's a great way to go.

The suspension and tire changes make a *huge* difference in handling. Turn in is sharper, body roll is reduced, and the whole car feels both lighter and smaller (though it clearly isn't).

It's also a lot faster, mostly at lower speeds. Even with bigger, stickier tires, it struggles for traction and will easily light up the wheels if you aren't careful with the...uh...throttle.

AWD would address this, but it would also make the car feel less alive, which doesn't seem like a great trade.

But you don't have to be careful with the throttle, because you can't disable the traction or stability control. Just mat it and let the computer figure it out.

JST 11-20-2016 04:17 PM

There's enough leeway that you can break traction if you're intemperate. But, yeah, you're right.


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