Interesting non-PAG Cayman developments

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MSpeed´s Porsche Cayman RS
Thursday, 09 March 2006

Cologne-based team MSpeed has been a regular competitor in the VLN series for the last years. For 2006 , the team´s trusty old Porsche 996 GT3-R will be replaced by an in-house build Porsche Cayman RS. "We decided to start the Cayman project in late fall last year , simply because the Cayman is a great base for a race car." , explains driver Stefan Beil. The mid-engined Cayman handles much more balanced , without the Carrera-typical understeering at corner exits.

The team spent numerous hours during the winter , turning the street Cayman into a proper race car. The engine puts out about 450hp , the standart H-pattern gearbox has been switched to a sequential one and the specialists from H&R helped to make the suspension system ready for the twisty and tricky Nüburgring Nordschleife. The car wont be ready in time for the testday or the first round , drivers Stefan Beil , Dr. Edgar Althoff, Paul Hulverscheid & Norbert Fischer have to be patient to prove the new Cayman will be as successful as the old GT3-R , wich scored 4th place overall during the 2005 Nürburgring 24hrs.

Porsche stated they wouldnt exactly want to see a Cayman on the race track , but Team MSpeed sticks by their motto : " We wouldnt be MSpeed if we woulndt try it at least"


...and a post from a Rennteam thread...


Hope you don't mind a late addition to this thread...

The STaSIS-developed LSD reverses the GT3's 40/60 (accel/decel) split. In the GTR, the higher number (60%) on accel is meant to help in application of power on corner exit. The lower number (40%) on decel is meant to free the rear of the car to aid in rotating on corner entry. The theory is that a lower polar-moment car can get away with a more aggressive setup due to its inherent stability. It is a clutch-type LSD.

On the track, its presence is immediately noticeable. The combination of the Cross suspension and the STaSIS LSD really made the car a joy on corner entry, and then it claws for every bit of grip on exit.

I think this is good stuff.

[lemming]

more evidence that porsche can't hold the floodwaters back for long.

once the detuned S is proven to be superior to the much vaunted GT3RSR cars, it will be a matter of time before the 911 "evolves".

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more evidence that porsche can't hold the floodwaters back for long.

once the detuned S is proven to be superior to the much vaunted GT3RSR cars, it will be a matter of time before the 911 "evolves".

Yup. But personally, I'm just glad there appears to be a great LSD available. It may be very pricey:dunno: , but it could be a very nice upgrade a couple of years after I acquire a 987S/Cayman S

[lemming]

i'm sure that you could get an LSD for very little money, actually. there is little doubt in my mind that you could find about 5 porsche shops in the area who could fit GT3 rear LSDs in there if you asked them to do so.

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i'm sure that you could get an LSD for very little money, actually. there is little doubt in my mind that you could find about 5 porsche shops in the area who could fit GT3 rear LSDs in there if you asked them to do so.

You don't think that would be pricey? The trick is making it work with PSM. The LSD referenced claims to work adequately with PSM (sounds like BS to me, though).

[lemming]

i don't really think PSM actually needs to interface with the LSD. the only time it would make sense to do so if it was more along the lines of the electronically controlled LSD like the F430.

as a pure mechanical LSD with set ratios for lockup, i don't think PSM interfacing really matters.

[FT@SGP]

There are multiple LSDs in the martket for Boxster and Cayman, FarnbacherLoles (which uses the Statis one), Sportec, TechArt, etc. They all roughly cost $3K. Labor should be about 3 hrs.

Now the question: is it worth paying that to gain 1 sec at Summit or about 3 secs at VIR or 0.2-0.5 at an auto-x? Of course the numbers are purely made up by me :)

[lemming]

There are multiple LSDs in the martket for Boxster and Cayman, FarnbacherLoles (which uses the Statis one), Sportec, TechArt, etc. They all roughly cost $3K. Labor should be about 3 hrs.

Now the question: is it worth paying that to gain 1 sec at Summit or about 3 secs at VIR or 0.2-0.5 at an auto-x? Of course the numbers are purely made up by me :)

i think it's worth it.

but that's just me.

(......simply because Porsche subtracted it from the factory on purpose)

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i think it's worth it.

but that's just me.

(......simply because Porsche subtracted it from the factory on purpose)

I plan on driving the car first. If it is anything like the 330i (brutal when you apply gas off any turn from a stop), then I would add an LSD.

[lemming]

I plan on driving the car first. If it is anything like the 330i (brutal when you apply gas off any turn from a stop), then I would add an LSD.

you're not psychotic like i am. i really doubt you'd want to go through all of that trouble. if it's anything like the boxster, it be brilliant just as it is.

[John V]

I plan on driving the car first. If it is anything like the 330i (brutal when you apply gas off any turn from a stop), then I would add an LSD.

I doubt it will be that bad. Granted I'm down several ponies from the Cayman S, but I can apply full throttle around a 90 degree corner in my car and if the tires break loose at all, they both spin most of the time. Even in deep snow, the lack of an LSD was not really apparent.

[lemming]

I doubt it will be that bad. Granted I'm down several ponies from the Cayman S, but I can apply full throttle around a 90 degree corner in my car and if the tires break loose at all, they both spin most of the time. Even in deep snow, the lack of an LSD was not really apparent.

if the market floor drops out beneath the Detuneds, would you at all be interested in one of those or do you like having a convertible? just curious.