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Optimus Prime
02-15-2006, 10:46 AM
How long after you order does it usually take to get the tracking information and such?
SteveM
02-15-2006, 10:49 AM
It depends I suppose on whether you got an allocation for the current month or not.
In 2003, I got mine within a week. The dealer was able to modify one of his existing allocations to suit my specific order.
Oh, boy...here we go. n00b :mad2:
Optimus Prime
02-15-2006, 11:24 AM
Oh, boy...here we go. n00b :mad2:
Wanna go quail hunting? :flipoff:
:D
I got a production # right away. Using it, I can (if I wanted to obsess about it) go on to bmwusa.com to the Owners' Circle and track the car's progress there.
But you need a production # or VIN in order to do so.
If you don't have a production #, the process hasn't even started. The dealer may not have any slots for this month's production and might need to wait until next month's to get you a slot.
Mr. The Edge
02-15-2006, 01:23 PM
I got a production # right away. Using it, I can (if I wanted to obsess about it) go on to bmwusa.com to the Owners' Circle and track the car's progress there.
But you need a production # or VIN in order to do so.
If you don't have a production #, the process hasn't even started. The dealer may not have any slots for this month's production and might need to wait until next month's to get you a slot.
TD what color did you choose and when do you anticipate taking delivery?
IndyMike
02-15-2006, 01:32 PM
I got a production # right away. Using it, I can (if I wanted to obsess about it) go on to bmwusa.com to the Owners' Circle and track the car's progress there.
Maybe in theory, except everybody knows the OC is notorious for being out of touch with the real vehicle status. Back in '02 it showed the '01 that I ordered in January, ED'd in March and picked up via re-delivery in May as still being 'In Transport'. :?
Besides, everybody knows the best way is to call your CA for updates 20 times a day until it finally arrives. Now THAT's obsessing! :lol:
TD what color did you choose and when do you anticipate taking delivery?
Black sapphire/terra/walnut (SP, PP, heated seats, sat prep)
Mid-March
You can also call BMW NA and track your vehicle with the production # at 800-831-1117. Say Vehicle Production Status. BTW, it is more accurate than the OC
undefined
02-15-2006, 01:56 PM
I thought they stopped doing that at the 800 number
Mr. The Edge
02-15-2006, 02:19 PM
Black sapphire/terra/walnut (SP, PP, heated seats, sat prep)
Mid-March
Very cool. Manual or slushie?
j/k :D
IndyMike
02-15-2006, 02:25 PM
I thought they stopped doing that at the 800 numberLooks like Sean is right. :eeps:
Looks like you can even use it to change options as long as status hasn't gone to 112.
I was successfully able to change TD's specs to Sonora mettallic with Grey leather, Active Steering, Navigation with Idrive, Comfort Access and Steptronic.
No need to thank me, TD.
: outtaher
:D
Looks like Sean is right. :eeps:
Looks like you can even use it to change options as long as status hasn't gone to 112.
I was successfully able to change TD's specs to Sonora mettallic with Grey leather, Active Steering, Navigation with Idrive, Comfort Access and Steptronic.
No need to thank me, TD.
: outtaher
:D
As that is a typical dealer lot spec car, I assume they won't mind too much when I don't take delivery.
IndyMike
02-15-2006, 02:43 PM
As that is a typical dealer lot spec car, I assume they won't mind too much when I don't take delivery.
True! And probably get MSRP for it, too. :ack:
Actually you need your production number or last 7 digits of the VIN to check the status. And I don't know if you can actually add, modify or delete ordered options via the menu or if it has to be through your CA. Wouldn't be surprised if you could though.
Check the number out and let us know what you find.
undefined
02-15-2006, 02:49 PM
Looks like Sean is right. :eeps:
Looks like you can even use it to change options as long as status hasn't gone to 112.
wow :eek:
just the opposite then--they've made the 800 number even BETTER! :eek: :eek:
True! And probably get MSRP for it, too. :ack:
Actually you need your production number or last 7 digits of the VIN to check the status. And I don't know if you can actually add, modify or delete ordered options via the menu or if it has to be through your CA. Wouldn't be surprised if you could though.
Check the number out and let us know what you find.
I have my production #.
I went to the Owners' Circle (I refuse to call it "the OC") and checked my status. Quite uninformatively, it's listed as "On Order".
I have no idea if this is current. Based on predicted delivery dates, I'd assume it should be at least "Scheduled for Production".
Looks like Sean is right.
FYI, I am always right. :lol:
Optimus Prime
02-23-2006, 11:05 AM
The 800# is way better than the OC. Scheduled completion date is March 2nd.
I really need to get the wife's car sold. :ack:
The 800# is way better than the OC. Scheduled completion date is March 2nd.
I really need to get the wife's car sold. :ack:
Call me lazy...
What is the 800 # again?
We apparently have the same production week (next week - week 9). But I haven't bothered to get a specific status from anywhere but the OC (which simply lists it as "On Order").
Optimus Prime
02-23-2006, 11:13 AM
Call me lazy...
What is the 800 # again?
We apparently have the same production week (next week - week 9). But I haven't bothered to get a specific status from anywhere but the OC (which simply lists it as "On Order").
ten posts above yours... :D
You can also call BMW NA and track your vehicle with the production # at 800-831-1117. Say Vehicle Production Status. BTW, it is more accurate than the OC
ten posts above yours... :D
D'oh!
The 800# is way better than the OC. Scheduled completion date is March 2nd.
I really need to get the wife's car sold. :ack:
Beat me by a day.
Scheduled completion date, March 3rd.
As my M3 departs on March 4th, that leaves me, what, 3 weeks or so of driving the 323iC until my car gets in.
undefined
02-23-2006, 12:06 PM
y'all should/may be on the same boat
y'all should/may be on the same boat
Here's to hoping it doesn't go the way of the Tricolor. :ack: :lol:
Optimus Prime
02-23-2006, 12:20 PM
Here's to hoping it doesn't go the way of the Tricolor. :ack: :lol:
I knew some bastage was going to bring that up :mad2:
Too bad you guys didn't do Performance Center delivery.
It appears some are getting their ordered E90s in 5.5 weeks. Really not a bad turn-around.
Too bad you guys didn't do Performance Center delivery.
My 0.02, it's not worth the trouble nor the rock chips acquired on the way home. The plant is still closed to the general public (no tours). I would suspect there are a few new X5s within the plant these days. The Z4 coupes are no longer a secret.
IndyMike
02-23-2006, 12:41 PM
But I haven't bothered to get a specific status from anywhere but the OC (which simply lists it as "On Order").
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/showpost.php?p=96300&postcount=16
stickpoke
You're buying an E90 and you're calling the Owners Circle 'the OC'. Invasion of the Bodysnatchers has succcessfully assimilated another longterm holdout.
:D
Optimus Prime
02-23-2006, 01:05 PM
Quick question. The dealership I'm working with isn't doing the greatest job, but the CA is working her ass off for me. Would it be appropriate to give her a tip when we pick the car up? :dunno:
Quick question. The dealership I'm working with isn't doing the greatest job, but the CA is working her ass off for me. Would it be appropriate to give her a tip when we pick the car up? :dunno:
No, she'll get anywhere from 20-30% of gross profit. Our local BMW Center pays 25% of GP.
Got a VIN last night.
OP, I assume you have one now as well. What are your last 3 digits?
I believe they are consecutive. 908 here.
clyde
02-24-2006, 09:49 AM
(if I wanted to obsess about it)
not like we haven't all done it...
Black sapphire/terra/walnut (SP, PP, heated seats, sat prep)
Mid-March
Did you get a chance to see the terra interior in person? If so, I assume that it must look pretty decent, otherwise you wouldn't have ordered it.
SARAFIL
02-24-2006, 09:41 PM
No, she'll get anywhere from 20-30% of gross profit. Our local BMW Center pays 25% of GP.
20-30% of gross after "pack"... For simplicity, let's assume a $500 pack. So, a $1000 over invoice deal yields around $500 commissionable gross. From that, deduct for items like floormats and anything else that they are giving you.
With the more competitive market these days, just about any deal on a 3-series is a "mini" deal... the salesperson is making the minimum commission that the dealer pays out... probably anywhere around $100-200.
Optimus Prime
02-27-2006, 03:53 PM
Got a VIN last night.
OP, I assume you have one now as well. What are your last 3 digits?
I believe they are consecutive. 908 here.
I missed this, and just answered in another thread.
I'm 905, so perhaps are cars are just 3 cars apart. That's kinda neat.
I saw your post "over there".
It's funny but back when I had my '01 330i, it was only a few cars (15 I think) off from another 330i owned by a guy who used to post regularly back then, Paul Benn (IIRC, his screen names were "31st330i" and then "1stDinan330i")
From that, deduct for items like floormats and anything else that they are giving you.
The local BMW stealer charges for floormats and PDI now. :rolleyes:
Got a VIN last night.
OP, I assume you have one now as well. What are your last 3 digits?
I believe they are consecutive. 908 here.
Which plant was it built at? Munich, Regensburg or Lepizig?
Regensburg.
(I assume that applies to both me and OP).
Regensburg.
(I assume that applies to both me and OP).
It appears more and more E90s are being built in Regensburg. I suppose this many have to do with the E91 (wagon). To my understanding Munich is the only plant currently building the E91.
It appears more and more E90s are being built in Regensburg. I suppose this many have to do with the E91 (wagon). To my understand Munich is the only plant currently building the E91.
Both of our current E36s as well as my former E46 were all built there.
SARAFIL
02-27-2006, 10:22 PM
Both of our current E36s as well as my former E46 were all built there.
My E46 is the most reliable BMW anyone in my family has ever owned, and it wasn't even built in Europe!
So, Sarafil, what is your estimate of the typical elapsed time (in days) from status 160 to actual delivery?
undefined
02-27-2006, 10:32 PM
if your car was just completed, it usually takes a couple of days to get to the port, where it spends 2-5 days waiting for a boat. Then 10-14 days on the water, plus 3-5 more to get to your dealership depending on port situation.
best case, 17 days...worst case...27 days
???
SARAFIL
02-27-2006, 10:40 PM
So, Sarafil, what is your estimate of the typical elapsed time (in days) from status 160 to actual delivery?
TD,
Your car is currently showing in the system as status 151, Entry Bodyshop/Serial Number Assigned. It's approximately 3-4 weeks away.
TD,
Your car is currently showing in the system as status 151, Entry Bodyshop/Serial Number Assigned. It's approximately 3-4 weeks away.
Then why did my salesman call me this morning to tell me I'm at 160?
What are you using to look it up?
Last 7 of VIN = PS05908
SARAFIL
02-27-2006, 11:00 PM
Then why did my salesman call me this morning to tell me I'm at 160?
What are you using to look it up?
Last 7 of VIN = PS05908
:dunno:
This may not be 100% up to date, but there is big difference between "entry bodyshop" and "produced".
:dunno:
This may not be 100% up to date, but there is big difference between "entry bodyshop" and "produced".
That's odd.
It's hard to argue that.
Thanks again.
I bet TD takes delivery a month from status 155, if not a day or two prior.
Optimus Prime
02-28-2006, 01:02 AM
That's odd.
It's hard to argue that.
Thanks again.
My CA said I was showing as 150 this morning, and if mine is 3 cars ahead of yours than perhaps your CA was mistaken.
My CA said I was showing as 150 this morning, and if mine is 3 cars ahead of yours than perhaps your CA was mistaken.
It looks like we'll be on the Integrity (which leaves Bremerhaven on the 6th and gets in to the Port of NY on the 19th). So my best case is getting the car right before the weekend of the 25th. You're probably looking at early the next week.
BTW, considering that they are 3 cars apart on the line and you have an estimated completion date of 3/2 and I have an estimated compeltion date of 3/3, yours is going to be wrapped up RIGHT AT QUITTING TIME. :yikes:
Optimus Prime
03-02-2006, 10:30 AM
It looks like we'll be on the Integrity (which leaves Bremerhaven on the 6th and gets in to the Port of NY on the 19th). So my best case is getting the car right before the weekend of the 25th. You're probably looking at early the next week. Sweet, thanks for the info.
BTW, considering that they are 3 cars apart on the line and you have an estimated completion date of 3/2 and I have an estimated compeltion date of 3/3, yours is going to be wrapped up RIGHT AT QUITTING TIME. :yikes:
Thanks for that :mad2:
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they both finished up early on the 2nd. :D
Sweet, thanks for the info.
Thanks for that :mad2:
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they both finished up early on the 2nd. :D
Um, what are you trying to say? I gave up on my SA and have strictly been following the autoamted lady at the 800 #. I'm supposedly still in the paint shop.
BTW, there is a ship that leaves Bremerhaven TODAY (we won't be on it). The next one to head out is the Integrity on the 6th. I think assuming we'll be on it is a pretty safe assumption.
Optimus Prime
03-02-2006, 11:39 AM
Um, what are you trying to say? I gave up on my SA and have strictly been following the autoamted lady at the 800 #. I'm supposedly still in the paint shop.
Just a feeling I have, if only so I can sleep better at night.
BTW, there is a ship that leaves Bremerhaven TODAY (we won't be on it). The next one to head out is the Integrity on the 6th. I think assuming we'll be on it is a pretty safe assumption.
Ya, but it depends since there may be a backlog at the port and it can take a few days to get from the plant to the port (or so I hear) :dunno:
Just a feeling I have, if only so I can sleep better at night.
Ya, but it depends since there may be a backlog at the port and it can take a few days to get from the plant to the port (or so I hear) :dunno:
The cars will be done NLT early tomorrow (the 3rd). IMO, they should have no problem making a ship out of Bremerhaven on the 6th.
If we don't make the Integrity, the next ship out is the Jingu Maru, which saild on the 9th. It gets in to NY on the 23rd. 4 day slippage.
undefined
03-02-2006, 11:57 AM
Um, what are you trying to say? I gave up on my SA and have strictly been following the autoamted lady at the 800 #. I'm supposedly still in the paint shop.
BTW, there is a ship that leaves Bremerhaven TODAY (we won't be on it). The next one to head out is the Integrity on the 6th. I think assuming we'll be on it is a pretty safe assumption.
if you're still in paint today I don't think you'll be on a train (er...boat) on the 6th
Just a feeling I have, if only so I can sleep better at night.
Ya, but it depends since there may be a backlog at the port and it can take a few days to get from the plant to the port (or so I hear) :dunno:
BTW, now they're in assembly.
BTW, considering that they are 3 cars apart on the line and you have an estimated completion date of 3/2 and I have an estimated compeltion date of 3/3, yours is going to be wrapped up RIGHT AT QUITTING TIME. :yikes:
In Regensburg BMW has taken an all-new approach in making working times more flexible. Together with the Works Council, we have developed an entirely new working time concept successfully introduced back in 1988. This makes Saturday a regular working day and separates between personal working hours and machine operating times. While associates spend an average of four days a week at the Plant, the facilities remain in use from Monday to Saturday. Two-shift operation – an early and a late shift – with the three A, B and C shift groups enable the Plant to use its expensive machinery 99 hours a week.
BTW, Paint happens rather quickly. BMW paints in batches and back-stocks painted bodies in what they call "the stacker." From my understanding, when your order comes up BMW pulls a painted body in the color you ordered from "the stacker" and sends it on to assembly. This back-stock also helps if there is a problem in the paintshop. Assembly can continue to build automobiles.
So their built around the clock?
I was merely observing that two cars, three cars apart on the line are not scheduled to be compelted on the same day. Obviously, there has to be a car that is the last car produced on a given day. And another that is the first on the following day.
It's funny that OP's and mine are scheduled to straddle that break.
So their built around the clock?
I was merely observing that two cars, three cars apart on the line are not scheduled to be compelted on the same day. Obviously, there has to be a car that is the last car produced on a given day. And another that is the first on the following day.
It's funny that OP's and mine are scheduled to straddle that break.
I'd be willing to wager that both cars will finish prior to their completion dates by a day or maybe even two days (actual production date).
Well, OP's is scheduled to finish TODAY and mine is schedule to finish TOMORROW.
Two days ahead is already out of the question for mine.
I'm status 153 as of this morning.
Well, OP's is scheduled to finish TODAY and mine is schedule to finish TOMORROW.
Two days ahead is already out of the question for mine.
I'm status 153 as of this morning.
Info via the DCS? If it was 153 this AM it will finish production today.
Random info: Regensburg has one assembly line producing 850 vehicles a day. Currently building all E46 3-Series coupes & convertibles, E46 M3 Coupes & convertibles, 1-Series, and E90 sedans.
Optimus Prime
03-02-2006, 03:34 PM
Info via the DCS? If it was 153 this AM it will finish production today.
Random info: Regensburg has one assembly line producing 850 vehicles a day. Currently building all E46 3-Series coupes & convertibles, E46 M3 Coupes & convertibles, 1-Series, and E90 sedans.
Where do you guys get this info?
I don't even know what the status numbers mean.
ed328ci
03-02-2006, 03:49 PM
I picked mine up on Wednesday during lunch. :) The process took about 2 weeks.
Ed
IndyMike
03-02-2006, 03:59 PM
I picked mine up on Wednesday during lunch. :) The process took about 2 weeks.
Ed
Congrats, ED! :thumbup:
Now Pics or :ban:
Optimus Prime
03-02-2006, 04:00 PM
I picked mine up on Wednesday during lunch. :) The process took about 2 weeks.
Ed
What the hell is that all a-boot?
..eh? :dunno:
:D
So how do you like it?
Where do you guys get this info?
I don't even know what the status numbers mean.
http://www.bmw-plant-regensburg.com/regensburg/htdocs/english/index_home.html
Status Codes from BMW DCS are as follows:
111 - Order Accepted at AG
112 - Scheduled for daily production pack
150 - Production started
151 - Entry body shop/serial # assgn.
152 - Entry paint shop
153 - Entry assembly
154 - Assembly
155 - Assembly finish/quality check
160 - Vehicle handover to Sales
181 - Handover to distribution
182 - Handover to carrier/load assignment
190 - Dispatched from AG
193 - Arrival at port or compund
Info via the DCS? If it was 153 this AM it will finish production today.
Random info: Regensburg has one assembly line producing 850 vehicles a day. Currently building all E46 3-Series coupes & convertibles, E46 M3 Coupes & convertibles, 1-Series, and E90 sedans.
Status 153 via 800#. Awaiting call back from SA.
ed328ci
03-02-2006, 06:40 PM
...So how do you like it?
Nice. :)
The way I phased it to my wife, "it's like a more grown up version of the old car". It's much more quiet. She was thankful that the E90 did NOT sound like the '06 (E46) 330Ci loaner that I had for the past 5 days. She did NOT like its "Mustang sounding" engine, though I enjoyed the rumble. Oh well.
Engine
- revs faster, but slightly less low end torque, but my old car was mod'd with software, intake, shorter final drive, and accessory pulley
- Smooth. I had it briefly on the freeway last night, and it was hard to keep it under 4,500 RPM and 160 Kph (100 mph) :) Strangely though, more vibrations can be felt through the steering wheel and shift knob in the E90.
Interior
- Interior is nicer, more "grown up".
- The seating position is higher up in the E90 sedan verses the E46 coupe. I like the new sports seats a bit better.
- The Logic 7 stereo is definitely better than the old HK. In dash CD is a plus. That the CD player can read CD-R is big plus. I was going to buy a MP3 player (or PSP) to plug into the AUX port, but with CD-R, I think I am going to nix that idea.
Handling
- Very similar, thought the E90 feels tighter. The RFT makes bumps on the road more noticeable. The smaller steering wheel gives the illusion of faster turns.
Braking
- Similar, then again, I just pass 100KM odometer at lunch. :)
Leathette verses leather
- No more leather for me, unless it's free. I can't tell the difference, and neither can my wife.
Transmission
- Similar, though the E90 seems to have slightly longer fore and aft shifts, and shorter port to starboard shifts. I kept going from 2 to 5. Duh.
Self programmable keys
- A nice feature of the E90 is that the keys are now programmable in via the turning stalk in the dash.
Start/Stop button
- Odd. Silly gimmick.
I have to get around to mounting my V1 or paying someone to do it.
Oh, it only two weeks for my to get my car because it was the last one available in Canada with the colour and options that I want. Otherwise, the next available car won't be built in Germany until late next week.
Let's hope the E90 does NOT have an problem in the same magnitude as the E46 subframe!
Ed
Optimus Prime
03-03-2006, 11:57 AM
Just got an e-mail from SA. "Produced, not yet shipped"
Just got an e-mail from SA. "Produced, not yet shipped"
I got an email from my salesman last night saying the same thing.
Optimus Prime
03-03-2006, 12:18 PM
I got an email from my salesman last night saying the same thing.
Thanks for leaving me in the dark for almost a whole, half a day... :cry:
:eeps:
:mad2:
Thanks for leaving me in the dark for almost a whole, half a day... :cry:
:eeps:
:mad2:
Well my salesman discredited himself earlier in the week, claiming it was done back on Monday. And we know that was false.
Even the ever-cheerful "woman" on the 800# claims it is complete and awaiting distribution.
Optimus Prime
03-03-2006, 12:41 PM
Well my salesman discredited himself earlier in the week, claiming it was done back on Monday. And we know that was false.True, True
Even the ever-cheerful "woman" on the 800# claims it is complete and awaiting distribution.
Am I the only one freaked out with the accuracy of their voice recognition? I don't know why, but it gives me the heebee jeebee's :eeps:
True, True
Am I the only one freaked out with the accuracy of their voice recognition? I don't know why, but it gives me the heebee jeebee's :eeps:
The first couple of times I called, the voice recognition capability startled me.
For things like the production number, I still found it easier to key it than say it.
I think it's a safe bet that they'll make Monday's ship. Which puts them in to the Port on NY/NJ on Sunday the 19th.
We'll see.
Safe bet?!
Did I say that?
It's been awaiting transport since Friday. That status is still being reported this morning. So I doubt it made it.
undefined
03-06-2006, 10:58 AM
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/showpost.php?p=98193&postcount=56
:mad2:
(I meant a boat, not a train though :speechle: )
Hey OP, check your status lately? Did you make it?
IndyMike
03-09-2006, 02:19 PM
Did you make it?
What's the skinny on your order, TD?
http://xo.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/shipwreck.jpg
:lol:
Just trying to determine if it made the Jingu Maru, which left today.
IndyMike
03-09-2006, 03:29 PM
Just trying to determine if it made the Jingu Maru, which left today.
They ought to give out the business cell phone number of the captain so you can ring him up and just say, "YO", from time to time during the voyage! :)
And don’t let Plaz get to you. He’s just being very childish!
http://www.cargolaw.com/images/disaster2003.Tricolor.4.GIF
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/english/details/060109_tricolor2/N_0717_TRICOLOR2-20030717-114213.jpg
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/nieuwsnet_master/versie2/english/details/060109_tricolor2/N_0804_tricolor_autos_B-20030804-140830.jpg
:D
Optimus Prime
03-09-2006, 04:07 PM
"...awaiting shipping vessel" according to the 800# :dunno:
iateyourcheese
03-09-2006, 04:52 PM
If your shipping vessel goes down, you can charter these guys to take you on a tour.
Third wreck down:
http://www.thaiwreckdiver.com/big_wrecks_off_malaysia.htm
They ought to give out the business cell phone number of the captain so you can ring him up and just say, "YO", from time to time during the voyage! :)
And don’t let Plaz get to you. He’s just being very childish!
:D
Optimus Prime
03-10-2006, 10:09 AM
I had an e-mail at work yesterday (I was out on business so I didn't get it until this morning) saying it boarded the ship yesterday.
"Estimated time of arrival is the 22nd "
:D
I had an e-mail at work yesterday (I was out on business so I didn't get it until this morning) saying it boarded the ship yesterday.
"Estimated time of arrival is the 22nd "
:D
Whew!
I just checked the WW site and it made it aboard.
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=699&stc=1&d=1142000313
Optimus Prime
03-10-2006, 11:16 AM
Whew!
I just checked the WW site and it made it aboard.
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=699&stc=1&d=1142000313
I can't get that site to work for me, it won't recognize my VIN.
I can't get that site to work for me, it won't recognize my VIN.
I believe it is case sensitive.
I had an e-mail at work yesterday (I was out on business so I didn't get it until this morning) saying it boarded the ship yesterday.
"Estimated time of arrival is the 22nd "
:D
Also, the 22nd?
The ship gets in to NY on the 23rd.
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=700&stc=1&d=1142007391
Optimus Prime
03-10-2006, 12:49 PM
I believe it is case sensitive.
Still no dice. :toetap:
The Jingu Maru is approaching Sweden.
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=701&stc=1&d=1142009607
Still no dice. :toetap:
Worked for me (obviously).
Odd.
The Jingu Maru is approaching Sweden.
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=701&stc=1&d=1142009607
Tell it to pick up a V70R for you while it's there.
IndyMike
03-10-2006, 01:08 PM
The Jingu Maru is approaching Sweden.
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=701&stc=1&d=1142009607
Why wouldn't it drop-off your vehicle in Ballamore, since that geographically is closer to you? It probably wouldn't get the vehicle to you any sooner, so it's six in one hand and half-dozen the other I guess. :dunno:
Why wouldn't it drop-off your vehicle in Ballamore, since that geographically is closer to you? It probably wouldn't get the vehicle to you any sooner, so it's six in one hand and half-dozen the other I guess. :dunno:
The BMWNA VPC is at the Port of NY/NJ.
Optimus Prime
03-10-2006, 01:13 PM
Why wouldn't it drop-off your vehicle in Ballamore, since that geographically is closer to you? It probably wouldn't get the vehicle to you any sooner, so it's six in one hand and half-dozen the other I guess. :dunno:
Perhaps this was meant for you... :dunno:
Oh, boy...here we go. n00b :mad2:
IndyMike
03-10-2006, 01:27 PM
The BMWNA VPC is at the Port of NY/NJ.
D'oh! That would be a good reason. : oops:
Perhaps this was meant for you... :dunno:
Nah. I prefer to look at it as having forgotten more about this stuff than most people will ever know.
:twisted:
BTW, what a big lump o'ship-
http://www.shipphotos.co.uk/images/jingumaru.jpg
http://www.schiffsphoto.de/HTM/Car/JinguMaru.htm
It's in Zeebrugge now...
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=723&stc=1&d=1142265358
It's in Zeebrugge now...
Wow. What an extremely bizarre yet cool web site.
I wonder if osama@alqaeda.com has registered yet?
Wow. What an extremely bizarre yet cool web site.
I wonder if osama@alqaeda.com has registered yet?
alqaeda.org, thankyouverymuch. :lol:
alqaeda.org, thankyouverymuch. :lol:
I'm watching the IPs accessing the site, waiting for DHS to start trying to track you guys down.
IndyMike
03-13-2006, 12:35 PM
alqaeda.org, thankyouverymuch. :lol:
:lol: :lol:
I just sent a request through the .com address for a Russian made rocket launcher. They advertise next day service via UPS.
Call me a big dork, but it's on the move again. http://aisfree.aislive.com/Influx.aspx?Map=Zeebrugge
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=725&stc=1&d=1142285041
wdc330i
03-13-2006, 06:20 PM
You wouldn't be human if you weren't excited.
Call me a big dork, but it's on the move again.
Will that site work in the open ocean, or only for ports?
Call me a big dork
You're a big dork.
(sorry, couldn't resist. Actually, I'm kind of vicariously excited with you)
Optimus Prime
03-13-2006, 06:48 PM
I'm kind of excited by you
:kekeke:
(sorry, couldn't resist.)
Will that site work in the open ocean, or only for ports?
I believe it will work for the open ocean as well.
On approach to Southhampton...
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=728&stc=1&d=1142339262
Optimus Prime
03-14-2006, 10:09 AM
On approach to Southhampton...
Can you input the ship name and follow it, or do you just go to the ports?
Can you input the ship name and follow it, or do you just go to the ports?
On the free public version, you cannot track the ship itself.
It should show up even on open waters, but I haven't been motivated enough to find it during those stretches. It's easier to find when pulling into or out of port.
After it leaves Southampton later today, it won't make another port call for 7 days, when it pulls ino Halifax, NS.
When it is in port, you can select it from the list at the bottom left and the site will draw the circle around it.
The Jingu maru is now docked- http://aisfree.aislive.com/Influx.aspx?Map=Port%20of%20Southampton
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=729&stc=1&d=1142346703
ed328ci
03-16-2006, 09:45 PM
Congrats, ED! :thumbup:
Now Pics or :ban:
Here are a couple of pics of the new car. 325i, SG, Sport Pkg, Premium Pkg, Adaptive Headlights, rear spoiler, CF splitters.
On approach to Halifax...
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=759&stc=1&d=1142940771
Final approach to NY (as of ~11:30 pm )-
http://forums.carmudgeons.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=760&stc=1&d=1143089695
Dry land! According to WW, it docked ~7:30 am this morning.
http://e90post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19477&stc=1
Is it utterly unrealistic to think that maybe it could be to the dealer by Saturday? Or Monday?
VPC today, truck tomorrow, dealership Saturday?
Expect a week or so at the VPC.
IndyMike
03-23-2006, 12:54 PM
Expect a week or so at the VPC.
:+1
I'd say earliest pickup is probably 1 April. :eeps:
If all goes well, I say it will be @ VOB in 3-4 days. :)
My car was in Chicago about 5 days after the ship landed. I was shocked, to say the least. You might get lucky.
Got the call tonight. It's at the dealer. I pick it up Monday.
Two days from ship to dealer.
undefined
03-26-2006, 12:21 AM
sweeeeeeet!
Optimus Prime
03-26-2006, 02:18 AM
Got the call tonight. It's at the dealer. I pick it up Monday.
Two days from ship to dealer.
:eek:
That's amazing, I can't wait to hear your report.
Got the call tonight. It's at the dealer. I pick it up Monday.
Two days from ship to dealer.
WOHOOOOO!!! Congrats TD!!
GregE_325
03-26-2006, 10:29 AM
Congratulations!!!!!!
They have it TODAY and you can't get it until TOMORROW? I would go crazy. Congrats. Hope you love it.
They have it TODAY and you can't get it until TOMORROW? I would go crazy. Congrats. Hope you love it.
They had it yesterday. I wasn't home when they called and got the message somewhat late last night (see the time of my post). The dealership is closed today (Sunday) so it's not like they're sitting on it.
I've got a lot to do today, so it's not really bugging me. I'll be going apeshit sitting at work tomorrow, though. I plan to leave early to get it. But for the 6 hours or so I intend to be at the office, I'm pretty sure I'll be bouncing off the walls.
I knew it would arrive quickly. You should feel confident that you had no transit damage since it arrived so soon.
BTW, Congrats
wdc330i
03-26-2006, 06:17 PM
Got the call tonight. It's at the dealer. I pick it up Monday.
Two days from ship to dealer.
Very exciting! I drove a e90 330i sport (albeit with step transmission) at the Susan Komen event last week. I also drove an e60 530i (non sport); 525xi; and a Z4 3.0. The 330i was the best of the bunch. A little more isolated and less visceral (isn't that what all old-model owners say?) than my e46 330i sport, but great nonetheless. It felt for the all the world like a much zippier, sportier 5 series--composed, powerful, unflappable. I came away thinking, "I wouldn't sell my current car to upgrade to this one right now; but when I need to think seriously about a new car, this one would be the front-runner."
Bruce330cic
03-27-2006, 12:43 PM
They had it yesterday. I wasn't home when they called and got the message somewhat late last night (see the time of my post). The dealership is closed today (Sunday) so it's not like they're sitting on it.
I've got a lot to do today, so it's not really bugging me. I'll be going apeshit sitting at work tomorrow, though. I plan to leave early to get it. But for the 6 hours or so I intend to be at the office, I'm pretty sure I'll be bouncing off the walls.
I hate to admit this, but I am really excited to hear your report on the new car once you get it tonight. I need to get a life! :lol: Congratulations on the new car....that wait seemed to really fly by!
I'm planning on leaving work by 4. I'm definitely eager to drive it and decide if I want it.
(I was never able to find a 330i SP 6-spd to testdrive. So this will be it. I am prepared to walk away if it's not right.)
wdc330i
03-27-2006, 12:51 PM
Good luck. I hope it's at least most of what you're looking for--for now.
Tick tock, tick tock. The time is getting closer. Hope you love the car. Remember to imagine the what it will feel like with an ssk if you don't like the stock feel. (oh, lease . . . right. Still, you could always put the original back in.)
ed328ci
03-27-2006, 03:47 PM
I'm planning on leaving work by 4. I'm definitely eager to drive it and decide if I want it...
That was me a few weeks ago. Picked up the new car during lunch. The dealership is only 5 to 10 minutes away. :)
Have fun!
Ed
Optimus Prime
03-27-2006, 04:36 PM
I'll be going apeshit sitting at work tomorrow, though. I plan to leave early to get it. But for the 6 hours or so I intend to be at the office, I'm pretty sure I'll be bouncing off the walls.
tic toc, tic toc :D
The real question will be whether TD comes home with a new set of keys, or with just a snarky comment about steering feel. :p
I was never able to find a 330i SP 6-spd to testdrive. So this will be it. I am prepared to walk away if it's not right.
And then what? :dunno:
Hmm. Noon my time. 3:00 p.m. TD time. Getting closer . . .
Jason C
03-27-2006, 05:05 PM
The real question will be whether TD comes home with a new set of keys, or with just a snarky comment about steering feel. :p
LMAO :lol:
You just know this board has prepared a collective groan if he ends up waffling for any longer. ;)
LOL.
I haven't left the office yet. Then it's ~45 minutes to the dealer.
If I walk, I'd probably just save a few bucks and get a Speed6.
Optimus Prime
03-27-2006, 06:43 PM
LOL.
I haven't left the office yet. Then it's ~45 minutes to the dealer.
If I walk, I'd probably just save a few bucks and get a Speed6.
It's 4:45 TD time...
:loveme:
He should be out driving now. Suffering the euphoria of a new car and the buyer's remorse over the cost all at once.
wdc330i
03-27-2006, 08:36 PM
He should be out driving now. Suffering the euphoria of a new car and the buyer's remorse over the cost all at once.
All that paperwork takes a long time to slog through. I hope he's on the road by now. But if he is, he's hitting rush hour. Not the most delightful test/inaugural drive conditions.
8 p.m. TD time. Still no report. I am going to assume that means he's still out driving. That's a good thing.
SARAFIL
03-27-2006, 10:12 PM
8 p.m. TD time. Still no report. I am going to assume that means he's still out driving. That's a good thing.
Or he's still at the Mazda dealership?
LOL
I'm still not home.
I got to the dealership around 5. Drove the car with dealer plates for about an hour.
Jason C
03-27-2006, 10:20 PM
I'm still not home.
Paperwork?
Pics or no cookie.
Optimus Prime
03-27-2006, 10:25 PM
My e90 showed up at the dealers tonight, but I need to wait for it to get processed. I ended up getting a bit screwed with the Mazda. I had a local buyer who was in Germany with the Military, we agreed on a price and I checked his financing through his bank. He was going to be deployed back here to Peoria last week, but at the last possible moment got redeployed to Turkey.
It's not really his fault, but I took the car off the market 4 weeks ago when we agreed on things. I could prolly keep his deposit, but I won't. Just can't do it. Now that the e90 is here I'm just going to take trade-in which is $3k less. :ack:
However, the dealer is giving away a free 5 day cruise with every car purchase this month and the Tax break will take the sting out of things.
Hurry up and give us the details TD... :D
IndyMike
03-27-2006, 10:41 PM
I could prolly keep his deposit, but I won't. Just can't do it.
That's a class act OP! My compliments, sir! :thumbup:
My e90 showed up at the dealers tonight, but I need to wait for it to get processed. I ended up getting a bit screwed with the Mazda. I had a local buyer who was in Germany with the Military, we agreed on a price and I checked his financing through his bank. He was going to be deployed back here to Peoria last week, but at the last possible moment got redeployed to Turkey.
It's not really his fault, but I took the car off the market 4 weeks ago when we agreed on things. I could prolly keep his deposit, but I won't. Just can't do it. Now that the e90 is here I'm just going to take trade-in which is $3k less. :ack:
However, the dealer is giving away a free 5 day cruise with every car purchase this month and the Tax break will take the sting out of the rapping.
Hurry up and give us the details TD... :D
Not much to give.
I have the car. The deal was what we negotiated at the time of order.
The color combo looks much better in person than I had hoped.
But the pics I took while the sun was out look crappy and the pics I took with the flash indoors look crappy. So until I get a new camera, I probably won't post pics (our point-and-shoot digital was submurged in water by our daughter and now none of the buttons work - so I can't change any settings - just take pics in the default mode with auto flash - no zoom either.)
Trust me. It's a black E90. It looks a lot like the rest of them.
lemming
03-27-2006, 11:29 PM
geez, TD.
don't die from overexcitement with the new car, man.
iateyourcheese
03-27-2006, 11:40 PM
:lol:
geez, TD.
don't die from overexcitement with the new car, man.
No, really, it's pretty cool. But it's so v ery much exactly what I expected that it's like I've had it a while. It's not silly fun like the E36 M3. It's a very very competent sport sedan. And that's a good thing.
The clutch and shifter are vastly improved over my former E46. The throttle response is better but still nothing at all like the E36 M3 (especially with the LTW flywheel my E36 M3 had). With the M3, clutch in and dip the gas pedal and the tach INSTANTLY shot up. With my former E46, if you blipped the throttle quickly enough, the revs never even bothered to go up. It just choked a bit. With this car, they go up, but with a slight lag and without the urgency of the E36.
Handling is excellent. Communicative yet damped. It is the perfect suspension for my aging mindset. Five years ago, the isolation would have driven me batshit. But now, it seems like a perfect balance.
Power is adequate. It feels about as fast as the E46 ZHP with a similarly imperfect power curve. While it's missing the ZHP's extreme flat spot, it's not perfectly linear either. But it pulls rather strongly and, combined with a relatively easy to work shifter, makes blasting off a stoplight pretty satisfying.
And I hate to admit it, but I'm digging the gadgets. I was on a dark, curvy two-lane tonight and the adaptive headlights were really pretty cool. They really did help me see around the bend. I will need the manual to decipher the menus embedded in the stereo headunit (which doubles as the OBC).
In all, it feels more like an E39 than it does an E36. But that's not a bad thing in and of itself. It should serve me well for the next 3 years.
But with all of the technology (which WILL fail - expensively) and with it's trendy blinged-out styling, this car is a car to lease. I would never BUY this car.
lemming
03-27-2006, 11:47 PM
No, really, it's pretty cool. But it's so v ery much exactly what I expected that it's like I've had it a while. It's not silly fun like the E36 M3. It's a very very competent sport sedan. And that's a good thing.
The clutch and shifter are vastly improved over my former E46. The throttle response is better but still nothing at all like the E36 M3 (especially with the LTW flywheel my E36 M3 had). With the M3, clutch in and dip the gas pedal and the tach INSTANTLY shot up. With my former E46, if you blipped the throttle quickly enough, the revs never even bothered to go up. It just choked a bit. With this car, they go up, but with a slight lag and without the urgency of the E36.
Handling is excellent. Communicative yet damped. It is the perfect suspension for my aging mindset. Five years ago, the isolation would have driven me batshit. But now, it seems like a perfect balance.
Power is adequate. It feels about as fast as the E46 ZHP with a similarly imperfect power curve. While it's missing the ZHP's extreme flat spot, it's not perfectly linear either. But it pulls rather strongly and, combined with a relatively easy to work shifter, makes blasting off a stoplight pretty satisfying.
And I hate to admit it, but I'm digging the gadgets. I was on a dark, curvy two-lane tonight and the adaptive headlights were really pretty cool. They really did help me see around the bend. I will need the manual to decipher the menus embedded in the stereo headunit (which doubles as the OBC).
In all, it feels more like an E39 than it does an E36. But that's not a bad thing in and of itself. It should serve me well for the next 3 years.
But with all of the technology (which WILL fail - expensively) and with it's trendy blinged-out styling, this car is a car to lease. I would never BUY this car.
cool!
i think gadgets are cool, too. i wouldn't ever pay money for them if i had a choice, but if they come with the car, i enjoy 'em.
it's okay to admit it's a fun car, TD. enjoy break-in.
Optimus Prime
03-28-2006, 12:25 AM
No, really, it's pretty cool. But it's so v ery much exactly what I expected that it's like I've had it a while. It's not silly fun like the E36 M3. It's a very very competent sport sedan. And that's a good thing.
The clutch and shifter are vastly improved over my former E46. The throttle response is better but still nothing at all like the E36 M3 (especially with the LTW flywheel my E36 M3 had). With the M3, clutch in and dip the gas pedal and the tach INSTANTLY shot up. With my former E46, if you blipped the throttle quickly enough, the revs never even bothered to go up. It just choked a bit. With this car, they go up, but with a slight lag and without the urgency of the E36.
Handling is excellent. Communicative yet damped. It is the perfect suspension for my aging mindset. Five years ago, the isolation would have driven me batshit. But now, it seems like a perfect balance.
Power is adequate. It feels about as fast as the E46 ZHP with a similarly imperfect power curve. While it's missing the ZHP's extreme flat spot, it's not perfectly linear either. But it pulls rather strongly and, combined with a relatively easy to work shifter, makes blasting off a stoplight pretty satisfying.
And I hate to admit it, but I'm digging the gadgets. I was on a dark, curvy two-lane tonight and the adaptive headlights were really pretty cool. They really did help me see around the bend. I will need the manual to decipher the menus embedded in the stereo headunit (which doubles as the OBC).
In all, it feels more like an E39 than it does an E36. But that's not a bad thing in and of itself. It should serve me well for the next 3 years.
But with all of the technology (which WILL fail - expensively) and with it's trendy blinged-out styling, this car is a car to lease. I would never BUY this car.
:thumbup:
Okay, three pics from before I signed (when it was still light out) turned out *okay*. Here they are.
Jason C
03-28-2006, 12:54 AM
Okay, three pics from before I signed (when it was still light out) turned out *okay*. Here they are.
Contrasting color interior for teh win!
That front plate needs to go, btw.
IndyMike
03-28-2006, 01:00 AM
Looks good. :)
Sycophant. Stop pandering to the man and go drive to a White Castle for some sliders.
:D
Contrasting color interior for teh win!
That front plate needs to go, btw.
I bought "Bumper Plugs" to fix the drill holes. But that wasn't happening tonight.
EDIT- I'm weak. The front plate is gone.
Sycophant. Stop pandering to the man and go drive to a White Castle for some sliders.
:D
Will you be my Indian road trip partner?
Bruce330cic
03-28-2006, 01:49 AM
The car looks great TD! The terra interior ROCKS!! Congrats again!
The car looks great TD! The terra interior ROCKS!! Congrats again!
Thanks, man.
Remind me. You ended up ordering an E90 as well, right?
Wow, it looks great! Like the color combo.
Bruce330cic
03-28-2006, 02:30 AM
Thanks, man.
Remind me. You ended up ordering an E90 as well, right?
Not yet. Plan to order in April or May. My current lease is up mid August, so want the car to arrive around that time or just a bit before. I've been told it's about 3 months out here from order to delivery. Gonna give the old Cutter motors up in Santa Barbara a crack at my business since the salesman there seems very good and willing to give good deals to members of Bimmerfest.
PS-I was getting nervous that you wouldn't take the car today! Glad you did!
Wow, it looks great! Like the color combo.
BTW, the interior looks much more brown in person. In the pics, it's very orange. It's not that orange in real life.
BTW, the interior looks much more brown in person. In the pics, it's very orange. It's not that orange in real life.
I've seen Terra in person with J/B & S/B. I like it with the blacks. :thumbup:
Congrats TD. The fact that you like the gadgets . . . that just puts the icing on the top of this particular story. I hope you like it for at least three years.
So how was the drive into work this AM (E90)?
IndyMike
03-28-2006, 12:35 PM
Will you be my Indian road trip partner?
Normally I would, Kimo Sabe. But for some reason Tonto thinks this smells like a setup.
:D
IndyMike
03-28-2006, 12:39 PM
Looking schweeeeeeeet, TD.
What did you decide about the RF's?
And have you decided how you will mount :eeps: your XM2GO?
Looking schweeeeeeeet, TD.
What did you decide about the RF's?
And have you decided how you will mount :eeps: your XM2GO?
No and no.
I'll probably mount the XM this weekend. For now, it's plugged into the aux in and resting in that cubby where the iDrive controller would be were it cursed with iDrive.
So how was the drive into work this AM (E90)?
So far, I'm digging the car.
wdc330i
03-28-2006, 01:02 PM
Excellent. I look forward to the details once you've settled in.
Any review at this point (beyond what I already posted) is premature. We drove the car for about an hour prior to doing any paperwork last night, wanting to make sure we weren't making a mistake. And you won't believe how difficult it is to really judge a car on even an hour long test drive.
The key point to me was that I can shift it (smoothly) without thinking about it consciously (something I could never do in an E46). I figure if I can do that, I live with with anything else that surfaces over time.
lemming
03-28-2006, 02:41 PM
Any review at this point (beyond what I already posted) is premature. We drove the car for about an hour prior to doing any paperwork last night, wanting to make sure we weren't making a mistake. And you won't believe how difficult it is to really judge a car on even an hour long test drive.
The key point to me was that I can shift it (smoothly) without thinking about it consciously (something I could never do in an E46). I figure if I can do that, I live with with anything else that surfaces over time.
you bring up a good point.
while the e46 wagon was never my primary driver, i found it really difficult to drive smoothly without concentrating a lot because of the lousy clutch and the clunky shifter.
the clutch is probably the thing that drives me nuts the most mostly because you can never FIX that single element. you can try in vain, but never really fix it.
rwg and i share the world's clunkiest shifter, but the clutch is really mindless to use and the power is so flat off of idle that it sort of makes up for it --i.e. you don't actually to shift that much or pay attention to it to get the car to move.
it seems that the e90 fixes a lot of those minor bugs in the E46 (esp 2001 MY cars)
you bring up a good point.
while the e46 wagon was never my primary driver, i found it really difficult to drive smoothly without concentrating a lot because of the lousy clutch and the clunky shifter.
the clutch is probably the thing that drives me nuts the most mostly because you can never FIX that single element. you can try in vain, but never really fix it.
rwg and i share the world's clunkiest shifter, but the clutch is really mindless to use and the power is so flat off of idle that it sort of makes up for it --i.e. you don't actually to shift that much or pay attention to it to get the car to move.
it seems that the e90 fixes a lot of those minor bugs in the E46 (esp 2001 MY cars)
Exactly.
The Saab has a balky shifter. But the clutch is natural. So I never have any problems driving it.
But the E90 has a rather nice snick-snick to the gearbox. So that's not an issue either.
BahnBaum
03-28-2006, 02:55 PM
Once I removed the CDV, I never had any issue shifting my e46 smoothly. Maybe my passengers would say differently, but I have no issues at all.
Alex
Is it safe to assume that the E90 has a CDV also? Maybe just a less restrictive one.
rwg and i share the world's clunkiest shifter
Not any more. I just posted in another thread - you really should put the ssk in. It makes a world of difference. The shifts are crisp and clean and you know exactly what the transmission is doing. It's not small and easy like the new Solstice shifter or anything, but at least you know exactly what's going on. Best mod ever b/c the oem shifter started out SO poorly.
I am happy to find out that it isn't the transmission that is so clunky, but the design of the shift mechanism.
Optimus Prime
03-28-2006, 04:43 PM
The sales manager is starting to piss me off. He's telling me that the .00195 buy rate isn't something that BMW will allow them to give to customers. It's a buy rate, and the computer won't even allow them to not mark it up. :toetap:
What are my rights to walk on this deal? They have a $1000 check as a deposit, but they screwed me on my trade and now they're messing with my lease numbers. What are my legal rights?
The sales manager is starting to piss me off. He's telling me that the .00195 buy rate isn't something that BMW will allow them to give to customers. It's a buy rate, and the computer won't even allow them to not mark it up. :toetap:
What are my rights to walk on this deal? They have a $1000 check as a deposit, but they screwed me on my trade and now they're messing with my lease numbers. What are my legal rights?
Dude, that's f*cked up.
I can tell you that I got the .00195 rate and the $625 acq fee. No mark-ups. The F&I dept at the dealership didn't make a dime.
Obviously, they are lying.
At least threaten to walk. They can't legally keep your deposit. And then they're stuck with a manual tranny E90.
I made sure to get my terms written out in full on the purchase order at the time I ordered. There was no way for them to dick me when the car came in (and they know I want the car - giving me no real leverage).
So yesterday involved simply processing the agreed to deal and signing away.
That's the problem with ordering a car. You know they're going to bend you over a barrel and go to town with respect to your trade-in. And whatever else they can f-ck you over on.
Yep, I would ask for your $1000 back, and start walking out the door. Then watch them back pedal.
Yep, I would ask for your $1000 back, and start walking out the door. Then watch them back pedal.
What he said. And if that doesn't work then call TD's salesman and have him do a trade for your car :)
IndyMike
03-28-2006, 05:34 PM
What he said. And if that doesn't work then call TD's salesman and have him do a trade for your car :)
Agreed as well on the walking part. No integrity, no deal.
Going through TD's pimp is kind of extreme if you ask me. If there is another dealer in the area that OP can work with and can give him the same orginal terms would be more convenient. If that doesn't work then TD's homefry boy is plan B, or maybe Sarafil.
Either way, it looks like it might be fortuitous that the Army member had to stiff you now.
The sales manager is starting to piss me off. He's telling me that the .00195 buy rate isn't something that BMW will allow them to give to customers. It's a buy rate, and the computer won't even allow them to not mark it up. :toetap:
:flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:
Farking icehole bastages. I really fucking hate that kind of condescending bullshit. If they don't want to make the deal, at least be honest about it, and just say so. Don't trot out some lame line of bullshit. Assholes.
Sorry, man.
Optimus Prime
03-28-2006, 05:57 PM
Agreed as well on the walking part. No integrity, no deal.
Going through TD's pimp is kind of extreme if you ask me. If there is another dealer in the area that OP can work with and can give him the same orginal terms would be more convenient. If that doesn't work then TD's homefry boy is plan B, or maybe Sarafil.
Either way, it looks like it might be fortuitous that the Army member had to stiff you now.
There's a very good dealership within a 2 hour drive that every person I've talked to has raved about. I'll prolly go there. I'm really not sure how I'll be able to buy the car from BMW of Peoria now. They'd have to do a lot to restore my faith in them. :irate:
argh, I sooo hate confrontation. :ack:
argh, I sooo hate confrontation. :ack:
And that's what those scum-sucking leeches count on. Fuckers.
Optimus Prime
03-28-2006, 06:04 PM
And that's what those scum-sucking leeches count on. Fuckers.
I find your vulgarity oddly amusing :thumbup:
There's a very good dealership within a 2 hour drive that every person I've talked to has raved about. I'll prolly go there. I'm really not sure how I'll be able to buy the car from BMW of Peoria now. They'd have to do a lot to restore my faith in them. :irate:
argh, I sooo hate confrontation. :ack:
I have a hard time engaging in confrontation unless (to me) I'm provoked.
If I were you, I would feel provoked. And I would go to war.
I hope he doesn't mind, but I used Sarafil during my negotiations as well. I figured I could always take Performance Center delivery and buy from him if they didn't see things my way. I only mentioned this in passing at the beginning of negotiations and they reluctantly agreed to everything.
But knowing that they couldn't be trusted to honor the deal, I made sure all of the details (EVERYTHING) were written out on the PO before I gave them my deposit (which was only $500, BTW).
Optimus Prime
03-28-2006, 06:13 PM
I have a hard time engaging in confrontation unless (to me) I'm provoked.
If I were you, I would feel provoked. And I would go to war.
I hope he doesn't mind, but I used Sarafil during my negotiations as well. I figured I could always take Performance Center delivery and buy from him if they didn't see things my way. I only mentioned this in passing at the beginning of negotiations and they reluctantly agreed to everything.
But knowing that they couldn't be trusted to honor the deal, I made sure all of the details (EVERYTHING) were written out on the PO before I gave them my deposit (which was only $500, BTW).
I didn't get everything written down on one sheet of paper, but at worst I'm out the $29 check cancelation fee. I told the SA I'd be in at 4. I didn't mention that I plan on taking my deposit and going somewhere else. We'll see what happens.
I don't remember the deposit laws in Illinois, but a dealership really doesn't want the reputation of stealing from potential customers. Especially in a smaller community like Peoria.
But unless a new law was passed that I missed, your rights to your deposit are governed by state law and can vary from state to state. In California, the government does everything it can to protect the helpless individual from all evil corporations (corporations are evil by definition here). I don't know if Illinois has laws that will make them return the deposit. I really don't think they do. But the long term harm to the dealership . . . probably worth more than $1000 to them.
IndyMike
03-28-2006, 06:25 PM
I told the SA I'd be in at 4. I didn't mention that I plan on taking my deposit and going somewhere else. We'll see what happens.
Good luck, OP!
And make sure you tell us the name of the dealership so we can curse them and break wind in their general direction, those tiny brained wipers of other people's bottoms. :mad:
Optimus Prime
03-28-2006, 08:09 PM
I just got back from the dealer, everything has been worked out to my satisfaction. The short story is that the finance manager was off the day I was negotiating the terms and when this came across his desk this morning it seems that no one brought to his attention that finance was getting no love on this deal. :D
Perhaps this omission was not an accident, perhaps it was, I don't know. Either way, I walked in the dealership prepared to take my deposit and walk out. The finance guy walked over, laid everything out on the table. I looked it over and EVERY number matched the spreadsheet I had made up on my own.
That was the only way they were going to keep my business and I guess they must have realized it. They car is still getting cleaned up so we won't take delivery until tomorrow, I did see it go on it's test run and it looked good.
I'll have more info tomorrow.
IndyMike
03-28-2006, 08:13 PM
I just got back from the dealer, everything has been worked out to my satisfaction.
:groupjump
SARAFIL
03-28-2006, 10:41 PM
I hope he doesn't mind, but I used Sarafil during my negotiations as well.
No big deal, the sales manager at VOB already hates me because of previous dealings we've had... :D
No big deal, the sales manager at VOB already hates me because of previous dealings we've had... :D
I didn't actually name you. I said something like "a friend who works at a dealership in RI".
lemming
03-28-2006, 11:23 PM
I didn't actually name you. I said something like "a friend who works at a dealership in RI".
:lol:
i thought you guys all hated VOB, so it's extra funny that (1) TD bought this car from them and (2) you like the car.
My e90 showed up at the dealers tonight, but I need to wait for it to get processed. I ended up getting a bit screwed with the Mazda.:D
Throw it on ebay if you still have it ... I ended up getting $18k for mine ... a 22 yr old girl bought it and has been the proud owner for a week now.
I do not miss the car one bit ... nothing wrong with it but just wasn't for me.
I would never BUY this car.
This last sentence is a major downer tom ... where is the excitement in buying a new car ? ?
In the pics it looks awesome and I bet the more you drive it the better it will get.
Try giving in to the excitement ... if buying a brand new car doesn't get you high then as a car enthusiast I have no idea what would :dunno: ...
I think I am more psyched about your new car than you are ,,,
Anyway congrats. I think it looks beautiful !!!
This last sentence is a major downer tom ... where is the excitement in buying a new car ? ?
In the pics it looks awesome and I bet the more you drive it the better it will get.
Try giving in to the excitement ... if buying a brand new car doesn't get you high then as a car enthusiast I have no idea what would :dunno: ...
I think I am more psyched about your new car than you are ,,,
Anyway congrats. I think it looks beautiful !!!
I *really* like this car. But I would still never buy it.
There is just too much technology. And it will fail. Expensively.
And the styling, while really growing on me, is far from "timeless".
No. This is a car to lease. Enjoy. And give back.
Optimus Prime
03-29-2006, 01:02 AM
Throw it on ebay if you still have it ... I ended up getting $18k for mine ... a 22 yr old girl bought it and has been the proud owner for a week now.
I do not miss the car one bit ... nothing wrong with it but just wasn't for me.
:(
I didn't get much interest on ebay the first time so I was reluctant to relist and pay all that money again. Now I'm second guessing myself...
I hate second guessing myself. :sad:
iateyourcheese
03-29-2006, 01:20 AM
:(
I didn't get much interest on ebay the first time so I was reluctant to relist and pay all that money again. Now I'm second guessing myself...
I hate second guessing myself. :sad:
Why second guess yourself? Sounds like you're getting a good deal on the new car -- good enough that the dealership tried to get out of it.
wdc330i
03-29-2006, 10:47 AM
:(
I didn't get much interest on ebay the first time so I was reluctant to relist and pay all that money again. Now I'm second guessing myself...
I hate second guessing myself. :sad:
CarMax? No muss, not fuss, and it separates that financial transaction from the purchase of a new car--always a good thing.
Optimus Prime
03-29-2006, 11:14 AM
Why second guess yourself? Sounds like you're getting a good deal on the new car -- good enough that the dealership tried to get out of it.
Actually, you're prolly right. When we ordered I had negotiated a solid deal that didn't leave the dealer with much fat. It just so happens that this month the dealership is giving away a free 5 day cruise for 2 to everyone who buys a car. :D So I imagine this deal isn't putting a whole lot in their pockets.
CarMax? No muss, not fuss, and it separates that financial transaction from the purchase of a new car--always a good thing.
The nearest one is 3 hours away and they wouldn't quote me a price over the phone other than to say I'd be just as well trading it in at my dealership for the tax savings.
Why second guess yourself? Sounds like you're getting a good deal on the new car -- good enough that the dealership tried to get out of it.
I agree with this advice ... no doubt trading a car in is the easiest way to get rid of it plus keep in mind I know you want around $17k for yours ... I only got $18k for a 1 yr newer car with only 4400 miles on it.
I would think a realistic price for your car on ebay would have been around $15k to $16k. If the trade in is around $14k or more than with the tax advantage you are ahead of the game.
Optimus Prime
03-29-2006, 02:40 PM
I agree with this advice ... no doubt trading a car in is the easiest way to get rid of it plus keep in mind I know you want around $17k for yours ... I only got $18k for a 1 yr newer car with only 4400 miles on it.
I would think a realistic price for your car on ebay would have been around $15k to $16k. If the trade in is around $14k or more than with the tax advantage you are ahead of the game.
I had an agreement to sell for $16k to the guy who got redeployed and I'm only getting $13k for the trade...
Oh well, I'm actually ok with it now. We were starting to have a lot of little problems with it and the service from our dealer was horrible. I'll just bite the bullet to be rid of it and move on. :D
I had an agreement to sell for $16k to the guy who got redeployed and I'm only getting $13k for the trade...
Oh well, I'm actually ok with it now. We were starting to have a lot of little problems with it and the service from our dealer was horrible. I'll just bite the bullet to be rid of it and move on. :D
So when are you taking delivery of the 330i?
Optimus Prime
03-29-2006, 03:02 PM
So when are you taking delivery of the 330i?
7:00 CT I'm swamped at work and I have class until 6:45 :ack: And somewhere between meetings at work and class I need to learn the nuances of Gaussian Quadtrature, Richardson Extrapolation, and the Newton-Cotes method.
...and is it just me or did Newton have a hand in most every advanced numerical method? That dude got a lot done during his lifetime. :umn:
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