View Full Version : E65 waffle
Mathew
08-12-2005, 08:40 PM
We're thinking about upgrading the 745i to a 750Li. This car would be for my mother. Considering it is a 2002, the 745 has been relatively problem free and it was never bought back. We actually got a newer 745Li loaner this week, and it had a lot of the bells and whistles, smoother transmission, and a better looking and bigger interior. There's been only a few minor software annoyances in the 745, but the biggest issue was the phone. It's basically a Motorola StarTac, and has been nothing but trouble since the beginning and is on its way out like the Dodo bird. The new models coming out have Bluetooth standard (and upgraded engine), and as silly as it may sound, is a big factor in the decision. Toss in the fact that the maintenance is about to expire, the tires are almost bald, there's a loyalty/sympathy rebate from BMW NA, CCA rebate, and a lot of other little things. It would also be a chance to get rid of a car by trading in the X5 at the same time. Yah, it's bunch of small, stupid things but I think someone wants a new car.
Or, she could get the 745Li demo car the dealer has. Our dealer seemed pretty quick to mention the idea of handing it off. I was hoping they would have some MY 05's they wanted to get rid of, but they're wasn't a single E65 on the lot. The dealer will call tomorrow and hopefully he will have some good numbers.
:dunno:
SARAFIL
08-12-2005, 10:15 PM
We're thinking about upgrading the 745i to a 750Li. This car would be for my mother. Considering it is a 2002, the 745 has been relatively problem free and it was never bought back. We actually got a newer 745Li loaner this week, and it had a lot of the bells and whistles, smoother transmission, and a better looking and bigger interior. There's been only a few minor software annoyances in the 745, but the biggest issue was the phone. It's basically a Motorola StarTac, and has been nothing but trouble since the beginning and is on its way out like the Dodo bird. The new models coming out have Bluetooth standard (and upgraded engine), and as silly as it may sound, is a big factor in the decision. Toss in the fact that the maintenance is about to expire, the tires are almost bald, there's a loyalty/sympathy rebate from BMW NA, CCA rebate, and a lot of other little things. It would also be a chance to get rid of a car by trading in the X5 at the same time. Yah, it's bunch of small, stupid things but I think someone wants a new car.
Or, she could get the 745Li demo car the dealer has. Our dealer seemed pretty quick to mention the idea of handing it off. I was hoping they would have some MY 05's they wanted to get rid of, but they're wasn't a single E65 on the lot. The dealer will call tomorrow and hopefully he will have some good numbers.
:dunno:
Unless the 745 is tremendously discounted, I'd go for the 750. The improvements that were made for the 2006 model are great and really make the car that much better. The i-drive is much easier to use and seems to have upgraded software, the new engine is nice, and as you mentioned, Bluetooth is great.
spoken like a true salesman!
If the Bluetooth is anything as horrible as the Bluetooth in my friend's E60 545i, don't buy that car for that. You'll be disappointed. I can almost never understand a sentence of his on the first try.
SARAFIL
08-12-2005, 11:07 PM
spoken like a true salesman!
If they're going to buy one or the other, the 750 is definately the way to go. It didn't seem like a matter of "should we buy a new car?" but rather, "which car should we buy?"
I know the dealer will push him towards a 745, since it is the car that they'll have a harder time selling. 750s are very hot right now and most dealers can't keep them in stock. It's not a car that they have to work too hard to sell. Given that, I'm sure the dealer is going to try very hard to push them towards a 745 demo.
I haven't admitted this, but my stepdad got a new 750Li about a month ago to replace his 745Li. He seems to like it... I haven't spent much time with it though...
750s are very hot right now and most dealers can't keep them in stock. It's not a car that they have to work too hard to sell. Given that, I'm sure the dealer is going to try very hard to push them towards a 745 demo.
Why is that? The 745 was never that hot.
SARAFIL
08-13-2005, 06:13 PM
Why is that? The 745 was never that hot.
I don't quite know... low supply, high demand... we're selling them before they hit the ground. Very few people have them in stock and available for delivery.
Why is that? The 745 was never that hot.
they've seen the new S-class and like the looks of the 7er a lot better
:dunno:
they've seen the new S-class and like the looks of the 7er a lot better
:dunno:
Possibly so.
Nick M3
08-13-2005, 08:14 PM
Yes, <ercedes has certainl taken care of the looks and iDrive argument.
Mathew
08-15-2005, 12:00 PM
I haven't admitted this
There's nothing to be ashamed about. :DD:
There's nothing to be ashamed about. :DD:
Actually... maybe it is.
I also haven't admitted that my mom has an e90 on order... :eeps:
Actually... maybe it is.
I also haven't admitted that my mom has an e90 on order... :eeps:
I'd take an E90 330i so long as someone else was paying for it. :lol:
I'd take an E90 330i so long as someone else was paying for it. :lol:
Only if I was under no obligation to keep it. For that amount of money, it seems pretty silly to buy a new 330i.
Only if I was under no obligation to keep it. For that amount of money, it seems pretty silly to buy a new 330i.
I was at a club meeting last night and our VP stated this woman standing next to a group of us just got a new E90 330. I said, "I've drive one several times. Nice car, but I don't like the price." Guess that did not suit well with her. Opps... :rolleyes:
SARAFIL
08-17-2005, 09:36 PM
I also haven't admitted that my mom has an e90 on order... :eeps:
:eeps:
SARAFIL
08-17-2005, 09:38 PM
I was at a club meeting last night and our VP stated this woman standing next to a group of us just got a new E90 330. I said, "I've drive one several times. Nice car, but I don't like the price." Guess that did not suit well with her. Opps... :rolleyes:
I don't get the price complaints... it really isn't noticeably more expensive than an E46 330, and I don't recall anyone complaining that the E46 was too expensive. So long as you can skip on some of the fancy toys that are availble on the E90 that weren't on the E46 (active steering, active cruise, i-drive, etc.), you can get a 330i at a reasonable price.
How about an LS430?
I rode in a friend's last night. A really comfortable car and the backup camera is great. Much cheaper than the 750 too.
I don't get the price complaints... it really isn't noticeably more expensive than an E46 330, and I don't recall anyone complaining that the E46 was too expensive.
I believe them both (E46 & E90) to be overpriced. :yes:
SARAFIL
08-20-2005, 09:17 AM
I believe them both (E46 & E90) to be overpriced. :yes:
Anyone have E36 prices handy? I'll have to dig around for them.
I seem to recall that the E36 wasn't much cheaper, and we're going back many years. For that price, the equipment level was lacking and the build quality was much worse.
:toetap:
Anyone have E36 prices handy? I'll have to dig around for them.
I seem to recall that the E36 wasn't much cheaper, and we're going back many years. For that price, the equipment level was lacking and the build quality was much worse.
:toetap:
I purchased my former '93 E36 325i when it was 2 years old. Saved myself quite a bit of cash too. :DD:
The '87 325is I had (1st owner was a friend). MSRP was $28k for a fully loaded 3-Series. The good ol' days. :rolleyes:
SARAFIL
08-20-2005, 09:09 PM
I purchased my former '93 E36 325i when it was 2 years old. Saved myself quite a bit of cash too. :DD:
The '87 325is I had (1st owner was a friend). MSRP was $28k for a fully loaded 3-Series. The good ol' days. :rolleyes:
Adjust that $28,000 from 1987 to 2005 dollars and see where you end up. ;)
Adjust that $28,000 from 1987 to 2005 dollars and see where you end up. ;)
If the E30 was in production today I certainly would not pay 2005 money for it. Nevertheless, I will not be buying an E90 for what BMW wants either.
SARAFIL
08-21-2005, 10:55 AM
If the E30 was in production today I certainly would not pay 2005 money for it. Nevertheless, I will not be buying an E90 for what BMW wants either.
Well, my point is that if you wouldn't pay 2005 money for it today (because it would be overpriced), than maybe it was also overpriced in 1987 in 1987 dollars. Therefore, it probably isn't a great idea to speak about how much of a value it was. In fact, it really wasn't a value at all. If anything, the E46 was the most reasonably priced 3-series (comparing inflation-adjusted, dollar for dollar as-equipped prices) in recent time, with the E90 coming next. The E30 came out in the days when the Germans could charge anything they wanted for their cars, and the E36 wasn't much better.
Love or hate the E46 and E90, BMW can no longer charge whatever they want to, and they are in fact better values than the models that came before them.
Love or hate the E46 and E90, BMW can no longer charge whatever they want to, and they are in fact better values than the models that came before them.
I'll agree with that. I was just being difficult. ;)
If the E30 was in production today I certainly would not pay 2005 money for it. Nevertheless, I will not be buying an E90 for what BMW wants either.
but is there anything in production today that you would pay 2005 money for?
:bait:
but is there anything in production today that you would pay 2005 money for?
:bait:
Hmm...probably not.
I've come to my senses in the last year that an automobile is the worst place to put your money. Sure it is common knowledge, but I guess I am beginning to show my age. Maybe I am actually growing up. :eeps:
Mathew
10-01-2005, 11:14 AM
She got it. 2006 750Li, and it sounds like it has just about every option.
lip277
10-01-2005, 02:04 PM
They have options?
:lol:
vBulletin® v3.7.1, Copyright ©2000-2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.