View Full Version : Awesome. Now they're going to mandate brake overrides on all cars.
Nick M3
03-02-2010, 03:40 PM
So much for left foot braking and heel-toe.
It would be nice if people understood how to push the brake pedal.
John V
03-02-2010, 04:00 PM
If you read C+D, their editor was looking forward to the near future where even the cheapest of cars will have lane-drift alerts, adaptive cruise control with full braking ability, and brake assist.
I'm starting to like old cars more and more... though I wish the RX-7 had ABS.
If you read C+D, their editor was looking forward to the near future where even the cheapest of cars will have lane-drift alerts, adaptive cruise control with full braking ability, and brake assist.
I'm starting to like old cars more and more... though I wish the RX-7 had ABS.
You should buy a 2009 Cayman S and keep it forever.
John V
03-02-2010, 04:09 PM
I'll have to wait until I can afford it, but that sounds like a pretty good idea.
Just replace "Cayman" with "Boxster."
If you read C+D, their editor was looking forward to the near future where even the cheapest of cars will have lane-drift alerts, adaptive cruise control with full braking ability, and brake assist.
I'm starting to like old cars more and more... though I wish the RX-7 had ABS.
Dumping my C/D subscription last year sounds like it was the right choice.
I'd like to be able to keep my old car running long enough to enjoy it.
Dumping my C/D subscription last year sounds like it was the right choice.
I'd like to be able to keep my old car running long enough to enjoy it.
I've dumped all my auto subscriptions.
stuka
03-02-2010, 05:29 PM
You guys still read the worthless American car mags?
Try Car.
You guys still read the worthless American car mags?
Try Car.
Car is good. For my money ($10/mo, jesus), Evo is a better read. Car and Driver and Automobile are still enjoyable (esp. since the latter contains a lot of content re-purposed from Car), even if their content is decreasing, and with long-term offers and discounts the subscriptions are essentially free (or like $1 month). For that price, might as well get them.
R&T, on the other hand, I still get for reasons I can't readily explain. The Peter Egan column is usually worth a read, but it's hard to justify the cost of the magazine on that basis. I'm not sure I've ever read a review in that rag that doesn't praise the car being reviewed.
John V
03-02-2010, 05:47 PM
My C+D sub runs out in a few months and I won't be renewing.
I'll keep GRM, for my money it's a really good mag.
stuka
03-02-2010, 06:03 PM
Car is good. For my money ($10/mo, jesus), Evo is a better read. Car and Driver and Automobile are still enjoyable (esp. since the latter contains a lot of content re-purposed from Car), even if their content is decreasing, and with long-term offers and discounts the subscriptions are essentially free (or like $1 month). For that price, might as well get them.
I love Evo also.
I buy them instead of subscribing because some issues are about Euro little hatches that I just don't care.
But I have a lot of older cool issues that I am keeping, like the one on Enzo, M3 CSL, Scuderia, etc...
USA Today article: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2010-03-02-toyotadeaths_N.htm?csp=usat.me
clyde
03-02-2010, 08:11 PM
I'd like to be able to keep my old car running long enough to enjoy it.
Yeah, me too.
Sunday?
clyde
03-02-2010, 08:17 PM
Have any of you read or thumbed through 0-60?
http://www.0-60mag.com/
It's usually at Borders, Barnes & Noble, etc. They've been around for about 2 years. Haven't read it since it was still new (think it's a bimonthly), but the vibe was much like a bunch of enthusiast forum/blogger types pooled some money and started a magazine...for all that means both good and bad.
If it's still like it was when new, it's worth at least a skimming. Not saying it's good. Or bad. But, it's a bit different than the other American magazines (the majors and the fanboy rags).
Just fyi...
lupinsea
03-02-2010, 09:00 PM
I'm starting to like old cars more and more... though I wish the RX-7 had ABS.
This is part of a number of reasons why I'm interested in the lower end / lower cost cars like the Miata, or the upcoming Toyota FT-86 (if they "do it right"). Usually they're trying to hit a low enough price point that they simply can load the car up with a lot of electronic techno crap. It keeps cost of entry low as well as keeping the car much simpler.
The simplicity and elemental nature are also a reason I like my Jeep, again, one reason among many.
That "they" are considering standardizing a brake-override mandate for cars reminds me of when some tragic, but very rare occurance happens and the public and legistlatures run around like a chicken with their head chopped off clucking "we gotta do something!" rather than calmly looking at the offending act at and and trying to figure out if it's REALLY worth making a law about.
In the case of the brake-override I don't think it's worth mandating. While a problem for Toyota due to (I think) bad design, it doesn't seem to be a major problem for other manufacturers. And if the Consumer Reports test is any indication, factory brake systems should be enough to stop a car, even when the engines are on full throttle.
rumatt
03-03-2010, 12:45 AM
You should buy a 2009 Cayman S and keep it forever.
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