Dead: Manual A4

[JST]

https://twitter.com/CARandDRIVER/status/1029801164919984133

That sucks.

[rumatt]

Ugh, that stinks.

[nate]

Not surprising.

[zach]

Not surprising but that blows.

[JST]

C/D and BMW are trying their hardest to make me care about the 3er again.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2019-bmw-3-series-sport-sedan-driven?c=ha_m&mag=cdb&dom=tw&src=socialflowTW&utm_campaign=socialflowTWCD&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social-media

But also



We drove only a single configuration: a four-cylinder 330i with the eight-speed automatic and the M Sport suspension and brakes.

[SARAFIL]

C/D and BMW are trying their hardest to make me care about the 3er again.



https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2019-bmw-3-series-sport-sedan-driven?c=ha_m&mag=cdb&dom=tw&src=socialflowTW&utm_campaign=socialflowTWCD&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social-media



But also



They will offer a manual but not with all engines. I think I read the 4cyl will offer manual but 340 will be auto only. M3 will likely keep manual option though.

This Audi example is sad but not surprising. They brought it back a few years ago when everyone begged for it and then only ~5% take rate. If people bought them they’d keep selling them.

[JST]

They will offer a manual but not with all engines. I think I read the 4cyl will offer manual but 340 will be auto only. M3 will likely keep manual option though.

This Audi example is sad but not surprising. They brought it back a few years ago when everyone begged for it and then only ~5% take rate. If people bought them they’d keep selling them.

Oh, good, BMW can keep fucking itself. I am glad I don't need to update my mental profile to "give a shit" from "don't give a shit."

[lemming]

isn't the solution to a manual A4 really a new GTI with a manual?

[rumatt]

Oh, good, BMW can keep fucking itself. I am glad I don't need to update my mental profile to "give a shit" from "don't give a shit."
:lol:

:+1

[lemming]

:lol:



:+1



I do care about the demise of the manual.

One in an a4? Not at all.

The a4 has always been a front heavy pig to me.

[Jeff_DML]

last version sounds nice(not worth the money for me though)

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/08/29/audi-a4-ultrasport-limited-edition-manual-transmission/

[nate]

I'll stick with my S4, but that's pretty cool.

[rumatt]

WTF is a "hand-shaker gearbox"?

[ff]

+ $6800? :rolleyes:

[Jeff_DML]

I can confirm that the overall take rate of the manual on the 2018 911 GT3 in the US is currently around 2/3rds. It started around 50% when we introduced the car last year and has been trending upward. Also due to the introduction of the Touring Package, which is only available with the manual.

https://flatsixes.com/cars/911-gt2gt3gt3-rs/report-2-3rds-porsche-911-gt3s-sold-us-ordered-manual-transmission/

[Alan]

https://flatsixes.com/cars/911-gt2gt3gt3-rs/report-2-3rds-porsche-911-gt3s-sold-us-ordered-manual-transmission/

Now that is a car that a manual should be available with, IMO the A4 losing the manual is not that big a deal because although it is a great car it is not a car I would want in a manual though for the true manual enthusiast it does suck because they lost another car that did have one.

It is strange because I am finding I really don’t miss a manual in any car I drive that has an automated transmission and I say automated for a reason since the transmission in the A4 is a dct.

[equ]

The three cars that I have kept the longest, all over four yeas, were the 00 A4 2.8, the 06 Cayman S and the 10 A4 2.0T. I put a combined 90k miles on the two a4's.

The a4's may not be enthusiast machines eliciting passion, but rather than trying to guess/perceive my past emotions, if I look at the facts; how many sheer miles and years I got out of them, I see that their pragmatic appeal - in manual form. There is nothing wrong in how they shift.

Longer than either the 04 s4 avant v8 or the 14 s4 3.0t...

[kognito]

But, dead to America. . . .not really dead