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nate
05-23-2016, 12:02 PM
I'm in LA now and have rented a Fiat 500 Abarth with a manual transmission.

After 3 days with this car, I can say with confidence that it is an unredeemable piece of crap. I dislike everything about it aside from the exterior appearance and the ease of parking it.

The manual transmission is terrible, the driving position is terrible, the ride is terrible, it's uncomfortable, loud in a lawnmowery sense, has zero power off-boost, terrible blind spots, and, I was told, has a revoltingly uncomfortable back seat.

Will be glad to get back to the S4. :)

JST
05-23-2016, 12:07 PM
I'm in LA now and have rented a Fiat 500 Abarth with a manual transmission.

After 3 days with this car, I can say with confidence that it is an unredeemable piece of crap. I dislike everything about it aside from the exterior appearance and the ease of parking it.

The manual transmission is terrible, the driving position is terrible, the ride is terrible, it's uncomfortable, loud in a lawnmowery sense, has zero power off-boost, terrible blind spots, and, I was told, has a revoltingly uncomfortable back seat.

Will be glad to get back to the S4. :)

Uh oh. Let's hope Terry doesn't see this...

Nick M3
05-23-2016, 12:52 PM
The Abarth is fun because of its terribleness, basically.

Plaz
05-23-2016, 01:40 PM
:lol:

ayn
05-23-2016, 07:26 PM
My neighbor has one and it sounds amazing. Never driven one though. The shift knob seems to be in a really odd spot from looking at it.


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Biggins
05-23-2016, 07:31 PM
I liked the one I drove, but the driving position is very weird!

rumatt
05-24-2016, 12:27 AM
:lol:

John V
05-24-2016, 05:45 AM
:lol:

Nick M3
05-24-2016, 07:52 AM
I liked the one I drove, but the driving position is very weird!
My preferred driving position is fairly upright and forward, so it felt fine to me. But I can see how people would have an issue with that.

nate
05-24-2016, 12:21 PM
My preferred driving position is fairly upright and forward, so it felt fine to me. But I can see how people would have an issue with that.

Since the steering wheel is mounted pretty much directly on the dashboard with no telescoping feature and the gearshift is also on the dashboard, this doesn't make sense unless you have freakishly short legs or freakishly long arms.

Additionally, the petals feel several inches too far towards the center of the car.

Jeff_DML
05-24-2016, 01:52 PM
Since the steering wheel is mounted pretty much directly on the dashboard with no telescoping feature and the gearshift is also on the dashboard, this doesn't make sense unless you have freakishly short legs or freakishly long arms.

Additionally, the petals feel several inches too far towards the center of the car.

I just had a fiat panda as a rental in France and sounds like the same setup.

zach
05-24-2016, 02:08 PM
I just had a fiat panda as a rental in France and sounds like the same setup.

I read that as Fat Panda (http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Fat-Pablo-Sandoval-2.jpg).

Jeff_DML
05-24-2016, 02:38 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/05/24/fiat-500-abarth-review-video/

Sharp11
05-24-2016, 08:20 PM
Additionally, the petals feel several inches too far towards the center of the car.

It comes with flowers? Like the late 90's VW Bug?

equ
05-24-2016, 08:50 PM
Haven't driven an Abarth but tried the regular 500 (C.'s mom). Hate that driving position even as I normally like to sit up, this is a whole another kind of vertical.

John V
05-25-2016, 05:52 AM
These things sound all kinds of horrible. They really should have put a muffler on them.

rumatt
05-25-2016, 08:45 AM
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/05/24/fiat-500-abarth-review-video/
I didn't get all the way through but from the parts I watched they seemed to love the car.

"This is so enjoyable to drive"

rumatt
05-25-2016, 08:47 AM
I read that as Fat Panda (http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Fat-Pablo-Sandoval-2.jpg).
Same :bustingup

Nick M3
05-25-2016, 10:58 AM
I didn't get all the way through but from the parts I watched they seemed to love the car.

"This is so enjoyable to drive"
Again, it's entertaining because it's not a very good car. It gives good sensation of speed, feels fairly natural, has enough power, and makes a ridiculous noise.